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Windows 7: Comodo vs Symantec

20 Oct 2010   #41
malexous

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
Maxxwire isn't your child. Three people use our computers and haven't come across malicious software in many years (except on purpose).
Oh, for goodness sake, all I was trying to say is there are tons of malicious sites out there. I mentioned my kids because they seem to have a talent for finding them. They never seem to figure out that it's a bad idea to follow links from one page to the next at random. Unless a person has developed a habit of only going to a few sites they on a regular basis, chances are they will encounter something bogus very quickly. Pretty sad situation, but that's what the internet has come to.
And my point is that Maxxwire may not have come across these "malicious sites". The three of us go to new sites all the time and haven't come across any in many years (or so it appears; we use Norton afterall ;) ).


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20 Oct 2010   #42
Maxxwire

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As far as the Matousec Proactive Security Challenge goes I hear more great things in computer security forums all over the web about the software that are at the top of the results than the ones at the bottom.

Yes, it is true that not all Security Suites use HIPS software which is so powerful and accurate in its detection that for many expert users it has replaced the outmoded definitions blacklist of traditional 20th Century Antivirus technology with its exceptional Zero-Day Malware protection.

In this day and age of an estimated >40,000 Malware released into the wild each and every day it would be hard to recommend any Security Suite that didn't include a HIPS software to protect the computer against the kind of Zero-Day Malware that is so prevalent these days and it is the proficiency in this State of the Art 21st Century Security Standard is what the Matousec Proactive Security Challenge tests for and to use a computer security software that does not meet these 148 Zero-Day Malware and Exploit challenges puts a computer at a much higher risk on the modern day ever increasingly Zero-Day Malware infested Internet which Antivirus software programs have no definitions for.

~Maxx~

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20 Oct 2010   #43
Maxxwire

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
And my point is that Maxxwire may not have come across these "malicious sites". The three of us go to new sites all the time and haven't come across any in many years (or so it appears; we use Norton afterall).
I used to use NIS 2009 and I surfed the Internet as just as blissfully unaware of Zero-Day Malware as you and your friends do because Norton Malware detection like many other Security Suites depends on Antivirus definitions and in an age when there are estimated to be some >40,000 pieces of Malware released into the wild each day that no Antivirus can detect so of course it seems like smooth sailing.

With modern State of the Art HIPS detection and Behavior Blocking software that many top rated computer Security Suites have developed the Zero-Day Malware that goes undetected by Norton and the other Secuirty Suites that depend on outmoded 20th Century blacklist definition based Antivirus software are detected immediately by computer Security software that uses HIPS and/or Behavior Blocking technology.

As I said I used to use Norton and thought it was great and that the Internet was fairly Malware-free until I picked up a Downloading Trojan and Norton didn't even blink and I was totally unaware of it in any Norton scan until a 3rd party scanner detected it and that was the end of using Norton for me!

~Maxx~

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20 Oct 2010   #44
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Norton incorporates one of the best behaviour blockers around. It has come a very long way since Norton 2009. SONAR 3: A new level of behavioral security in Nor... - Norton Community
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20 Oct 2010   #45
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Sonar actually seems to work quite well.

Maybe just me, but it doesnt seem as if it says much in the tests.
However, in the real world or the wild, it does quite well.

How is it so different from a test enviroment to a "in the wild" enviroment?
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20 Oct 2010   #46
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Sonar actually seems to work quite well.

Maybe just me, but it doesn't seem as if it says much in the tests.
However, in the real world or the wild, it does quite well.

How is it so different from a test environment to a "in the wild" environment?
Wishmaster- I'm glad that Norton Sonar is working for you, but I had Norton Sonar activated when my computer got infected by Malware in the wild and Norton with Sonar does not do well when tested alongside the world's top computer security software in extensive testing.

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but I'm sure that there are a lot of people who just bought a new computer with NIS 2011 pre-installed and have to make up their minds as to whether to pay to keep Norton or uninstall NIS and install a computer security software that scores much higher on independently administered tests.

~Maxx~

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20 Oct 2010   #47
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

Norton is usually at the top of tests when the whole product is used and tested against real malware.

The only software that score better have full-blown HIPS but they are usually not user-friendly (the exception regarding user-friendliness is the new Comodo at non-default settings and even then it causes problems/annoyances for some).
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20 Oct 2010   #48
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
The only software that score better have full-blown HIPS but they are usually not user-friendly (the exception regarding user-friendliness is the new Comodo at non-default settings and even then it causes problems/annoyances for some).
You're right Comodo v5.0 is very easy to use at its default settings by new users and has amazingly few pop-ups for such a high level of computer security. For those who want to explore more advanced settings there is plenty of expert help on the Comodo Forums for them to become more familiar with the advanced computer security that Comodo can provide.

~Maxx~

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20 Oct 2010   #49
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

It's not quite as user-friendly as I thought. Remove-Malware.com Forums • View topic - SSS20 Config...

Their whitelist is not big enough yet.
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20 Oct 2010   #50
Maxxwire

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by malexous View Post
It's not quite as user-friendly as I thought.
Norton and Comodo have completely different roles in the world of computer security in that Norton is pre-installed by default on 1,000,000's of computers sold each year and it therefore must be 'set and forget' super simple enough for even the most computer skills challenged person to operate and still offer an adequate amount of protection.

Comodo on the other hand is so granularly programmable that the user can literally set rules for each and every program on the computer for the ultimate in personalized computer security and able to have advanced State of the Art computer security features like registry and file virtualization plus Cloud Based Malware Scanning and Behavior Blocking which computer enthusiasts are interested in having as part of the Comodo Suite of layered security.

Using the threat of the number of pop-ups in Comodo only effects users with the very lowest levels of computer security skill in that each pop-up is explained in detail although since I have been running Comodo 2011 there have been surprisingly few pop-ups which in a way is a disappointment because dealing with pop-ups is a great way to gain a deeper level of understanding about the inner workings of my Win 7 x64 computer.

~Maxx~

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