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Windows 7: New Boy asking "can I get rid of McAfee"

11 Jun 2011   #1
anjou2

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 
New Boy asking "can I get rid of McAfee"

Hi, this is my first post on your forum. I joined after reading a post here regarding using XP printer drivers in Win 7 (it worked a treat).
I have inherited McAfee Internet Sec Suite included in a new Win 7 laptop. This expires next month and I intend to delete it and install Zone Alarm, AVG free and MS Defender. Would be grateful for advice on getting rid cleanly, can I just use Control Panel "delete progs" function or do I need some outside software. Many thanks.


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11 Jun 2011   #2
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

hi anjou2, and welcome to sevenforums,

antivirus products are notoriously difficult to remove from an operating system, the normal uninstall procedure often isn't enough.

i advise that you uninstall the usual way, from windows control panel, then download and run the mcaffee removal tool. this should get rid of any rubbish left behind.

further instructions are on the page i've linked to above.
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11 Jun 2011   #3
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Welcome
Go to the Mcafee site and use their uninstall tool. Almost all antivirus companies have such a tool. It is best to use it for complete removal.
I went for you and here it is
http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx?id=TS100507
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11 Jun 2011   #4
mindinka

windows 7 Pro x64
 
 
ZoneAlarm?

Hi anjou2
I would like to add to what guys already said little advice try to avoid Zone Alarm firewall if you can, there are known problems with Winodws7, there are few alternatives available one of them is Comodo...Hope it helps...
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11 Jun 2011   #5
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Just piling on more info:

If you're behind a router with NAT, then I would not bother with 3rd party software firewalls at all. They'll only slow things down because, as has been pointed out, they often don't work so great with 7. I found Comodo, while it didn't bork the system like ZoneAlarm, was still problematic... and because I'm behind a router with NAT, unnecessary.
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11 Jun 2011   #6
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

software firewalls still do have their uses though - you can configure settings for each separate program on your pc.

for instance, if you don't want a certain app phoning home each time you start it, you can deny it access - you can't necessarily do that with a NAT.

also

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If I have a router with a built-in firewall, should I also turn on Windows Firewall?

Yes, because router-based firewalls only provide protection from computers on the Internet, not from computers on your home network. For example, if a mobile computer or guest computer connects to some other network, becomes infected with a computer worm, and then connects to your home network, your router-based firewall won't be able to prevent the spread of the worm. However, a firewall running on each computer on your network can help control the spread of worms.
source

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Here’s a good way to sum up the difference between a hardware and software firewall. Think of a hardware firewall as a club bouncer who checks everyone coming in against a list to make sure they have an invitation. The software firewall, on the other hand, is like a security guard who makes sure nobody snuck in -- and is doing something untoward while inside -- and checks to make sure people aren’t stealing stuff on the way out.
more here

that said, i've not used zone alarm for a long long time, so i don't know how well it compares to the default windows firewall - you may not need zone alarm at all.
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11 Jun 2011   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Zone Alarm and AVG is bad news and pretty useless. Suggest you go for free MSE instead. And if you intend to spend money, get NIS2011.
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11 Jun 2011   #8
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
software firewalls still do have their uses though - you can configure settings for each separate program on your pc.

for instance, if you don't want a certain app phoning home each time you start it, you can deny it access - you can't necessarily do that with a NAT.

also

Quote:
If I have a router with a built-in firewall, should I also turn on Windows Firewall?

Yes, because router-based firewalls only provide protection from computers on the Internet, not from computers on your home network. For example, if a mobile computer or guest computer connects to some other network, becomes infected with a computer worm, and then connects to your home network, your router-based firewall won't be able to prevent the spread of the worm. However, a firewall running on each computer on your network can help control the spread of worms.
source

Quote:
Here’s a good way to sum up the difference between a hardware and software firewall. Think of a hardware firewall as a club bouncer who checks everyone coming in against a list to make sure they have an invitation. The software firewall, on the other hand, is like a security guard who makes sure nobody snuck in -- and is doing something untoward while inside -- and checks to make sure people aren’t stealing stuff on the way out.
more here

that said, i've not used zone alarm for a long long time, so i don't know how well it compares to the default windows firewall - you may not need zone alarm at all.
I probably should have mentioned that I use the MS firewall as well as use MSE's network monitoring... but yeah, what Mickey said.
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12 Jun 2011   #9
anjou2

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Many thanks to all for very helpful inputs. I'm behind a hard wired Netgear DG834G v2 at home but I sometimes use a 3dongle when I'm away for browsing/emails etc. I have to ensure I'm protected then. How much protection would I have with just MSE, it seems I need a firewall too when away from the Netgear ?
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12 Jun 2011   #10
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

the standard windows firewall included in windows 7 should be enough.
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