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Windows 7: MS Security Essentials

25 Jun 2011   #41
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

There is no "best". Free, paid, antivirus or suite, they all let things slip by. If you like super simple, go with MSE. If you want total control, go with Comodo. You want something light on resources, with good detection, go with avast! There really is no wrong answer.


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25 Jun 2011   #42
Coke Robot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I personally use Kaspersky Internet Security, and sometimes I install AVG Internet Security on other machines. KIS is by far one of the best you can buy, but it can slow things down when doing a full scan though. AVG, to me, seems to be a few notches above MSE. The thing with AVG is it has MAJOR issues with false positives.... obnoxious.

Speaking of MSE, I know someone who works at the hospital here and he's told me that MSE is installed on every machine there. I winced at that because if there was code that could make its way into the system, it could easily kill MSE's process in Task Manager. That's my stickler with it though.
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25 Jun 2011   #43
Markmental

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DBone View Post
There is no "best". Free, paid, antivirus or suite, they all let things slip by. If you like super simple, go with MSE. If you want total control, go with Comodo. You want something light on resources, with good detection, go with avast! There really is no wrong answer.
Then Avast it is.
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25 Jun 2011   #44
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Markmental View Post
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A billion rewards doesn't counter the fact that among AV's it's the most common to cause issues in windows 7. More often than not they are full blown BSOD crashes.
alright, what is the absolute best av for windows 7?
Honestly I have yet to see one that just doesn't pop up with problems now and then. ...this could of course be because I'm incredibly active in debugging here.
The ones I have seen the fewest trouble posts about are probably kapersky and ESET. Though I don't use either personally, I haven't seen many dump files pointing to them as the cause of an issue.

The real problem is windows has a somewhat open nature compared to OSX+ and linux.
The thing a lot of these AV's are doing to try and compensate for that is blocking some features that while not used often by many people can become a real problem for others.
You trade off for just about everything, you can use an AV that provides the best level of detection and protection but you may suffer a problem with it blocking a proper system driver, protocol, or function at some place down the road.

While it's not a problem for geeks who can weed out the setting/trigger event themselves it is a problem for common users, which is why I stick to suggesting the one with the fewest known compatibility issues instead of what may be the actual best protection.

At the end of the day a good bit of commonsense will keep you from even needing the protection.

Most viruses are rather easy to clean out after all.
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25 Jun 2011   #45
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Markmental View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DBone View Post
There is no "best". Free, paid, antivirus or suite, they all let things slip by. If you like super simple, go with MSE. If you want total control, go with Comodo. You want something light on resources, with good detection, go with avast! There really is no wrong answer.
Then Avast it is.

Do a custom install. If you use a web based mail provider (Yahoo!, ect..), then don't install the mail shield. If you don IM or use P2P, then don't install those either. If you don't like gadgets, then don't install it. Same with the WebRep (like WOT) browser add-on.

It's your machine, install what you need!

The File, Web, Network and Behavior Shields are a must!!
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25 Jun 2011   #46
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I wouldn't be too concerned about that the systems in those hospitals are pretty well controlled, they are probably using mse because it's the least issue causing and they don't expect much of anything to sneak by the first layer of defense. Since not a single user in the entire complex has an admin account.
Most of the time those machines don't even have flash player and other basics installed to their web browsers. As we as having those net nanny type programs that keeps people from visiting all but the most rudimentary of sites.

Have had some experience with this recently because my mom was in the hospital.
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25 Jun 2011   #47
Markmental

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

for safe surfing I use Wot and McAfee siteadviser
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25 Jun 2011   #48
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

You can dump McAfee all day long. WOT is just OK, and not a real security measure. Norton DNS ( Norton DNS ) is better then both WOT and McAfee combined, and it doesn't take any of your machine's resources. A layered approach is the best, and the DNS is a great 1st line.
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25 Jun 2011   #49
Markmental

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DBone View Post
You can dump McAfee all day long. WOT is just OK, and not a real security measure. Norton DNS ( Norton DNS ) is better then both WOT and McAfee combined, and it doesn't take any of your machine's resources. A layered approach is the best, and the DNS is a great 1st line.
wow thanks it works well
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25 Jun 2011   #50
DBone

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

You're welcome! Norton DNS is a great free tool, and for me, it's even faster then my ISP's DNS.
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