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Windows 7: Norton 2009 products now work with windows 7!

26 Aug 2009   #31
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dinesh View Post
Currently trying Kaspersky. So far, NOD32 and MSE are the only AV which has full 64 bit support. When opened task manager, kaspersky processes looks like this:
avp.exe *32

Wheres, NOD32 process shows as ekrn.exe
compared to Kaspersky.
By looking at the process name, looks like NOD32 has superior 64-bit support as .

Correct me if i m wrong.
no you are not wrong. i take av software very seriously. i am a subscriber to Virus Beulletin and trust their methods. Time after time NOD32 has proven to be the best product on offer.


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26 Aug 2009   #32
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
no you are not wrong. i take av software very seriously. i am a subscriber to Virus Beulletin and trust their methods. Time after time NOD32 has proven to be the best product on offer.
I trust my own judgement over someone else's. Tests do turn out to be biased or rigged in most cases (not claiming those are).
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26 Aug 2009   #33
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
Norton failed in the August Virus Bulletin test! Failed in Vista SP2 testing
True, and it wasn't the only one, but when you look at the results, it had only 2 "wild list" misses.

No AV suite will ever detect all the bad stuff out there.
A lot of the av suites that passed august, have failed june's test.

It is a snapshot of a moment in time.
They test a certain list with a couple of hundred thousand entries, viruses, adware, worms and trojans.
They don't test all of the bad stuff out there.

Possibly if they had chosen an other list out of the millions out there, the test might have had different results.
(especially since it missed only 2)

If you check a little further on VB Bulletin, you'll find that Symantec passed all previous tests since September 1999.
Not many can top that.

If they did the test one hour later, Symantec might have already closed the gap, who knows?
Symantec collects updates every five minutes, so most of the "wild" will be known in a short time thereafter.

Like I said before, on my server Norton found several viruses and trojans that Nod32, Kaspersky and McAfee had missed.

That doesn't say they are lesser AV's, again, no AV will ever find everything.

Based on that knowledge I chose the one that is the least intrusive and has the smallest impact on my system.

At this moment in time it's Norton 2009.
It might be Nod32 next year.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dinesh View Post
Currently trying Kaspersky. So far, NOD32 and MSE are the only AV which has full 64 bit support. When opened task manager, kaspersky processes looks like this:
avp.exe *32

Wheres, NOD32 process shows as ekrn.exe
compared to Kaspersky.
By looking at the process name, looks like NOD32 has superior 64-bit support as .

Correct me if i m wrong.
I don't feel native 64 bit support matters much.
AV's should find the bad stuff and run smooth, that's all I care about.



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26 Aug 2009   #34
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
Hence the word BETA 2010.

Try the trial of the finished and smoothen out product 2009.

greetz
Sure, but it's doubtful the finished product will look all that different from the beta and I wasn't a fan of the overall looks and operation.
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26 Aug 2009   #35
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheIgster View Post
Sure, but it's doubtful the finished product will look all that different from the beta and I wasn't a fan of the overall looks and operation.
In most cases Beta's are where they receive user-feedback about what should be added/removed/changed. So its very likely it will be very different from the beta.
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26 Aug 2009   #36
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Side note on Virus Bulletin:

They test all the products in their default state, without any updates.

Since the latest Norton product before august (without program updates), had a build date of several months back, the test should be considered as not very accurate nor fair, because other AV suites might have released their newer versions right before the test.
At the least it is a variable factor to reckon with.

Virus Bulletin statement.
Quote:
Default settings
A product's default installation settings will be used for all tests, with the following exceptions:

Adjustments may be made to logging settings to allow adequate information to be gathered to analyse test results.
On-access scanning will be disabled, where possible, during on-demand testing.
Quote:
VB100 award
A VB100 award means that a product has passed our tests, no more and no less. The failure to attain a VB100 award is not a declaration that a product cannot provide adequate protection in the real world if administered by a professional. VB urges any potential customer, when looking at the VB100 record of any software, not simply to consider passes and fails, but to read the small print in the reviews.



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26 Aug 2009   #37
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGundam View Post
In most cases Beta's are where they receive user-feedback about what should be added/removed/changed. So its very likely it will be very different from the beta.
Well, I have run my own software company and currently work for another software company...beta's don't change that much. Tweaks here and there, but the overall look and feel...nope.
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26 Aug 2009   #38
gamepro127

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

I guess Im back to ESET NOD32, After a reboot Norton started saying that My license ran out and that I had to buy it. I was like "WTF?" I still have 13 days left...
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26 Aug 2009   #39
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gamepro127 View Post
I was like "WTF?"
That's why they say, "Norton sucks".
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26 Aug 2009   #40
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gamepro127 View Post
I guess Im back to ESET NOD32, After a reboot Norton started saying that My license ran out and that I had to buy it. I was like "WTF?" I still have 13 days left...
Just to help you, not to judge,

Have you ever tried a trial reset?

I have tried it once or twice before I decided to go ahead and buy N2009.
Then I got that same symptom as you describe, even with the genuine product.
Norton had found out about it and sent an update that blocked my program when it detected the trial reset.

I had to run the trial reset again and disable it, to make it stop reseting.

Oh, and a quick format won't get rid of it either. It's in the root sector.

Greetz.
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