MSE vs Malwarebytes

flegma · 29 May 2012

Thanks for the info, guys!

bdstx4 · 29 May 2012

imho, the lower the knowledge of the user the more protection is need. Today imo a local program like Malware Bytes and a Cloud based scanner. Here is what I went thru on a customers computer this past xmas time. Read about it here.
Pup.Bitminer successfully removed 2/06/2012

This took a few weeks to find a removal solution. This rootkit came from a very legitimate website. I am not at liberty to say which one.
So nothing is always 100% perfect.

EDIT: I tried all the various free cloud based and av programs that were available. None could detect
anything except Malware Bytes. But mwbites could not permanently remove

mohamedkamel · 30 May 2012

marsmimar said:

tianxi01 said:

Both also not the best, the best is N360 v6.0.

No antivirus or antimalware tool is 100% effective 100% of the time. If there was such a thing we'd all be using it and all other companies would be out of business. The "best" product is the one a person actually uses and keeps updated. Using something is always better than using nothing at all, even if the product of choice catches only 90% if the bad stuff.

That's why on-demand scanners like Malwarebytes, Superantispyware, Hitman Pro, ESET Online Scanner, Trend Micro Housecall, Comodo Cleaning Essentials, etc should be included in everyone's arsenal in the fight against malware.

Better yet, keep an updated system image available to restore your machine to a clean condition. Once a machine becomes infected, even if 6 different scans say it's clean, I believe you can never be 100% certain that the machine really is malware free. Some of the bad stuff can be so deeply imbedded it could be weeks before it activates.

IMHO ... FWIW :)

Fully agree with you and I actually do so.

elstupido · 30 May 2012

Too many scanners. Getting rid of malware after it infects your computer is not the way to go. Plus it screws up your system just getting rid of it.
Preventing it from getting in is the way to go.......SANDBOXIE is your friend.

FoxIX · 30 May 2012

Interesting that I came across this just as I was doing a scan with Malwarebytes. I've always used this, but reading some of the comments I might get hold of another one just incase :)

pparks1 · 31 May 2012

tianxi01 said:

All of the Free antivirus is not good, only N360 is better than Mcafee, AVG, Avast, MSE, Avira...

If it truly was "the best", then we would all use it. But we don't. So, it's not universally the best product.

bdstx4 · 31 May 2012

I do not mean to be a party pooper here, but maybe the reason some peoples virus/malware scanner has not detected anything in a great while is because it cannot. Protect yourself and your friends and customers with multiple av solutions. You cannot state that NAV has protected you well and will always do so.
The AV malware software industry has much more competition in it today than most other areas of basic software
today. There is a need for that.
There have been some good recommendations for av software in this thread. Make use of them. Stop being so
blindly trusting of a brand. What Norton or Kaspersky or Etc. did yesterday means nothing.
imho

elstupido · 31 May 2012

bdstx4 said:

I do not mean to be a party pooper here, but maybe the reason some peoples virus/malware scanner has not detected anything in a great while is because it cannot. Protect yourself and your friends and customers with multiple av solutions. You cannot state that NAV has protected you well and will always do so.
The AV malware software industry has much more competition in it today than most other areas of basic software
today. There is a need for that.
There have been some good recommendations for av software in this thread. Make use of them. Stop being so
blindly trusting of a brand. What Norton or Kaspersky or Etc. did yesterday means nothing.
imho

If your trying to make the case for more than one active A/V on a computer at the same time, im going to have to disagree with you. If you mean one active A/V with multible on demand only scanners is the way to go, then i would agree with this as being a better choice.

pparks1 · 01 Jun 2012

bdstx4 said:

I do not mean to be a party pooper here, but maybe the reason some peoples virus/malware scanner has not detected anything in a great while is because it cannot. Protect yourself and your friends and customers with multiple av solutions. You cannot state that NAV has protected you well and will always do so.

I do understand the point that you are trying to make. I often wonder if my tools are working, as none of them, ever find anything. My MSE is always clean, my MBAM scans always come back clean, etc. But then again, my computers always run right, they don't crash, and don't show any indication whatsoever that anything is wrong, so I'm 99.9% sure I am infact "clean"

But then again, I take lots of precautions to help alleviate issues. For example, I don't use IE ( I prefer my browser to NOT be integrated so tightly with Windows), i don't run as an admin, I don't run p2p apps, i don't pirate software. I don't search for cracks, warez, serial #'s, keygen sites, etc. I don't click on links in emails or on facebook. I don't trade files with friends via USB keys. I don't care to see the latest pictures of Lindsay Lohan or Miley Cyrus without underwear.

So, with all that said, since I run very low risk, and I don't have problems, I don't see any reason to change what I am doing or use other software. For other people who take far more risks, perhaps a much more comprehensive application might truly be the very best option.

flegma · 01 Jun 2012

I have another question.
I have 2 accounts on my computer. The first is the administrator account that was created when I installed Windows. The second is a standard account that I created after and use for daily usage.
If from my standard account i right click Malwarebytes, run it as administrator and do a full scan, will it scan the files of both my accounts, or only the administrator account? The same question about MSE.
Thank you in advance!