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Windows 7: It's not the SYSTEM but it's the USER whose the problem

16 Oct 2009   #11
ultraplanet

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
3) Never use an online shopping system that REQUIRES you to register on their site.
I am curious how this is even possible? Doesn't amazon, newegg, overstock, buy .... well .... everybody require you to register?


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16 Oct 2009   #12
Jacee
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That one has me puzzled too ultraplanet
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16 Oct 2009   #13
Antman

 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
3) Never use an online shopping system that REQUIRES you to register on their site.
I am curious how this is even possible? Doesn't amazon, newegg, overstock, buy .... well .... everybody require you to register?
Registering at a site and storing bank data at the site are two different things.
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16 Oct 2009   #14
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
3) Never use an online shopping system that REQUIRES you to register on their site.
I am curious how this is even possible? Doesn't amazon, newegg, overstock, buy .... well .... everybody require you to register?
Registering at a site and storing bank data at the site are two different things.
Sorry slight confusion - I meant registering a Credit Card with them so you can "Shop quickly" next time using the same card even if they only want the last 4 digits

Intervideo Windvd used that sort of trick -- it's Corel now but if you retrieve say a lost serial number they want you to enter part of the credit card you used when you made the purchase -- so they MUST have that stuff stored).

I was younger and less experienced in those days - but have since changed Banks and Cards,




Cheers
jimbo
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16 Oct 2009   #15
ultraplanet

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks for clearing that up jimbo! Be safe out there!

<off topic>Is antey sence like spidey sense or what?</ off topic>
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20 Oct 2009   #16
johngalt

 

This turned out to be an interesting thread, despite my having not a chance to see it in a while....

I like the things being discussed here, and while I may have reservations on agreeing with some of the things being said (IOW those arguing with me - OK, OK, j/k) it is fairly obvious that even though malicious behavior has been blown out of proportion I stipulate that it has been blown far too *little* out of proportion. We hear of stories every single day about this breach of trust and that illegal data access, yada yada yada, and yet people never once think that they should be pro-active about it and use preventative techniques. Heck, there are folks out there that think that getting a malware infection is normal, fer pete's sake!

And yet more and more people engage in potentially harmful activities b/c 'their friend said it was OK, and he knows about computers.'
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21 Oct 2009   #17
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

my sister in law installed one of those web browser control bars she found on my space, could have been an add. Either way weeks later she has major Trojan infection.

My wife who also installed said control bar was lucky, NIS 2009 caught it and kept my laptop clean so uninstalling it was all I needed to do.

So we need to educate and tighten security at the same time.
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21 Oct 2009   #18
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by macgyver2 View Post
my sister in law installed one of those web browser control bars she found on my space, could have been an add. Either way weeks later she has major Trojan infection.

My wife who also installed said control bar was lucky, NIS 2009 caught it and kept my laptop clean so uninstalling it was all I needed to do.

So we need to educate and tighten security at the same time.
The problem here is that educated people in computers are outnumbered 10000:1 or even greater. Being an extortionist online (hacker, identity theft stealer, etc) is not only easy, it is probable and profitable due to so many *dumb people who use computers. I have to say though that I am thankful that many people are computer illiterate (pays my bills...) but at the same time I have to take a step back and grimace at the fact that some poor person out there every minute of every day has just been compromised.
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28 Oct 2009   #19
Dunsailing

Windows 7 Home Premium x32bit
 
 

I have a "Verified by Visa" protection scheme on anything I order from Amazon. If I don`t enter the Verified by Visa password, the order will not be allowed.
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01 Nov 2009   #20
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dunsailing View Post
I have a "Verified by Visa" protection scheme on anything I order from Amazon. If I don`t enter the Verified by Visa password, the order will not be allowed.

Hi there

are you sure that the "Verified by Visa" is genuine - Amazon is a prime target for intrusion as it is just about the largest online retailer anywhere.

Ebay is usually safe from this type of attack -- scammers don't "outscam" other scammers usually. -- there's enouh "Social Engineering" type of gigs on that site anyway.

Just kidding

actually all credit card purchases should throw up an extra level of security which prompts you to enter some extra data - not a whole password in clear text.

cheers
jimbo
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