Getting a firewall installed on windows 7

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  1. Posts : 1,633
    Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
       #11

    SIW2 said:
    Hi,

    I just leave leave WF outbound protection at default, i.e. allow all.

    I then let VFC control the outbound.

    Otherwise you will have to both let it through VFC and also separately configure to let each one through WF .

    SIW2
    You mean outbound turned off or what, I'm not sure what you mean otherwise as I don't see any setting in WF to allow all automatically.

    I guess that's basically the same as my new outbound rule to enable all, which sort of defeats the idea of a fiewall in the first place. My mystery is why does VFC only pop-up to ask for applications and not the network or any services?
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  2. Posts : 16,161
    7 X64
       #12

    Hi Peter,

    The WF default is allow all outbound - since you changed it, you needed to create an allow all rule, or reset to defaults, I imagine.

    VFC does let your network and ms services connect - it has a kind of whitelist - it's only to stop apps. or keyloggers etc. dialling out without your permission.

    Comodo has a whitelist too - it lets ms services dial out.

    I didn't use Comodo as it is another large app. with a fancy gui to load at startup. IMO VFC does a good job.

    SIW2
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  3. Posts : 1,633
    Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
       #13

    SIW2 said:
    Hi Peter,

    The WF default is allow all outbound - since you changed it, you needed to create an allow all rule, or reset to defaults, I imagine.
    Default is outbound turned off in other words. I did create a rule allowing all while keeping WF O/B on.

    VFC does let your network and ms services connect - it has a kind of whitelist - it's only to stop apps. or keyloggers etc. dialling out without your permission.
    It didn't let mine connect and never asked. I can only connect if I turn on the outbound WF rule.
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  4. Posts : 16,161
    7 X64
       #14

    Hi,

    When I first installed installed Vista, I wasn't connected.

    When Vista detected I was setting up a connection-it asked what type - Private or Public etc. VF set itself up depending on that answer.

    VFC then just goes with that - it doesn't need to ask as you can only connect if you have already told VF what to do.


    Installations since then I am already connected and at the end of the install I get asked what type of connection - select one - and again VF or WF , whichever sets up it's own firewall rule for that and VFC doesn't need to ask.

    I have never had to configure anything manually.

    SIW2
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  5. Posts : 1,633
    Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
       #15

    Thanks for all the help guys. My problem was trying to understand why I was disconnected from the web when I enabled WF outbound protection because as you know, in its default state, WF only protects inbound.

    I installed VFC and it didn't help even when I manually entered IE and FF as "Enable all".

    I then gave WF a rule to allow all outbound. I doubt there is much point at that stage of even having WF outbound turned on as it will basically let anything through.

    That was why I was questioning everything.
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  6. Posts : 16,161
    7 X64
       #16

    Yes Peter, it is odd that it lets everything dial out by default - I suppose M$ figure UAC will help.

    Tho they do provide a way to configure it manually , it would be much easier if they had built in something in the Notification area that would pop up.

    SIW2
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  7. Posts : 1,633
    Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
       #17

    Thanks again.
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  8. Posts : 16,161
    7 X64
       #18

    Hi,

    I'm just curious as to why WF didn't ask what type of network you wanted.

    For me, a window has always popped up with a little picture of e.g. a house for home network, and a park bench for public network.

    I'm assuming that when I select one of those, WF sets up the appropriate rules - anyway I have never needed to do it.

    I'm also assuming that's why VFC never interferes with the network connection - it thinks that has been set up.

    I could be wrong -wouldn't be the first time . LOL.

    SIW2
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  9. Posts : 1,633
    Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
       #19

    It did ask when I first setup, but it does that when outbound connection aren't being monitored anyway don't forget.
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  10. Posts : 19
    Windows 7
       #20

    Confused


    Can I just use defaults on the Windows Firewall, I don't have the knowledge or patience to have to set it all up....
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