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Windows 7: UAC

05 Nov 2009   #11
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LPDad View Post
Unfortunately, even running the UAC does not stop a lot of the new virus problems making the rounds:
Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses | Chester Wisniewski's Blog
That was one of the most useless blog posts that I have ever read. I'm not sure why the author expected that the UAC system would stop malware from installing.

His conclusion: You still need anti-virus with Windows 7. Is there anybody on the planet who actually thought otherwise????

My conclusion: Some computer users should be required to obtain a license to blog before doing so.


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05 Nov 2009   #12
esteban

7 Ultimate, Debian Squeeze, #! Statler
 
 

Bit of a hijack, but is there a way to disable UAC for a single application? I think it's really stupid to have to click "allow" when I run Task Manager and other things.

I wouldn't mind it if it monitored non-sandboxed apps like Firefox or Thunderbird, but as a poweruser, I want to be able to open MSConfig or Task Manager without interruption.
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05 Nov 2009   #13
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

I wasn't exactly clear...But I want to make sure this point gets across.

UAC is not a security boundary but rather a convenience. A convenience so you do not have to run as administrator yet still be able to do administrative task without changing accounts.
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05 Nov 2009   #14
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by esteban View Post
Bit of a hijack, but is there a way to disable UAC for a single application? I think it's really stupid to have to click "allow" when I run Task Manager and other things.

I wouldn't mind it if it monitored non-sandboxed apps like Firefox or Thunderbird, but as a poweruser, I want to be able to open MSConfig or Task Manager without interruption.
Sure....but then so could everything else inject its way into such a list and run with full admin privileges without consent. But no, no such method exists for good reason.
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05 Nov 2009   #15
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by esteban View Post
Bit of a hijack, but is there a way to disable UAC for a single application? I think it's really stupid to have to click "allow" when I run Task Manager and other things.

I wouldn't mind it if it monitored non-sandboxed apps like Firefox or Thunderbird, but as a poweruser, I want to be able to open MSConfig or Task Manager without interruption.
Sorry for the hijack,

Back on topic, on my Windows 7 box, I have UAC enabled, it's on the 3rd tick mark (defaults)....and I can open both Task Manager as well as msconfig without any prompts whatsoever.

You must have your UAC all the way to the max....which prompts when YOU, the admin does something specifically which requires admin level control. Bring it down 1 tick mark and then it won't nag unless the application itself tries to gain admin rights.
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05 Nov 2009   #16
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by esteban View Post
Bit of a hijack, but is there a way to disable UAC for a single application? I think it's really stupid to have to click "allow" when I run Task Manager and other things.

I wouldn't mind it if it monitored non-sandboxed apps like Firefox or Thunderbird, but as a poweruser, I want to be able to open MSConfig or Task Manager without interruption.
The default setting for UAC (one from top), does not prompt for either MSConfig or Taskmanager, well it doesn't for me anyway
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05 Nov 2009   #17
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by esteban View Post
Bit of a hijack, but is there a way to disable UAC for a single application? I think it's really stupid to have to click "allow" when I run Task Manager and other things.

I wouldn't mind it if it monitored non-sandboxed apps like Firefox or Thunderbird, but as a poweruser, I want to be able to open MSConfig or Task Manager without interruption.
The default setting for UAC (one from top), does not prompt for either MSConfig or Taskmanager, well it doesn't for me anyway
I do not get a prompt for task manager, but if I make a change I am notified that I must use an administrators account.
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05 Nov 2009   #18
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

I think that the UAC prompt when using Taskmanager or MSConfig to change something depends on the actual item you are attempting to change

if you are attempting to stop a system process then I am, personally, willing to accept the UAC prompt as this is a useful checkpoint

Others have a right of course to have there own opinions, which is why UAC is configurable
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05 Nov 2009   #19
JJP

Win 7
 
 

But how does UAC decide when to kick in - for instance I have a tax return program which loads without UAC coming in but with a payroll program it asks for permisson each time.
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05 Nov 2009   #20
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

There are several triggers for the UAC prompting for elevation ...

If the program is designed with the requirement. this is complicated as many older programs designed for XP, where the norm is to run as admin, are set this way although they have no need to be because the programming is simpler for the developer.

If the program needs to access data that does not have permissions set for a standard user then the prompt will be triggered. This happens with a standard admin user as the user is actually running as a standard user.

You can also stipulate that a program always runs with admin rights by use of the compatibility mode
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