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Windows 7: UAC

05 Nov 2009   #21
Win7User512

Windows 7 x64 / Same
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JJP View Post
But how does UAC decide when to kick in - for instance I have a tax return program which loads without UAC coming in but with a payroll program it asks for permisson each time.
It depends on what and how the applications are trying to access in the system. It is difficult to say without knowing the code behind the action.


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05 Nov 2009   #22
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JJP View Post
But how does UAC decide when to kick in - for instance I have a tax return program which loads without UAC coming in but with a payroll program it asks for permisson each time.
Well, years ago most Windows programs were designed to be run as an admin with admin level permissions. As time has gone on, apps have been rewritten to not require admin rights. Unfortunately, there are still some apps which haven't been implemented to not require admin level access and that is why UAC prompts really are hit or miss.

Your tax return program loads without needing any admin level credentials. But it seems that your payroll application does require some admin level permissions.
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05 Nov 2009   #23
JJP

Win 7
 
 

Both programs are set up to run with admin rights via compatibility mode, so why does UAC wants permsission with one and not the other? Weird.
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05 Nov 2009   #24
TheSchaft

Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkXeno View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
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I agree, and UAC was turned off immediately after my fresh install of Win 7. I do not need training wheels, and I am the only user of this PC.
UAC does not equate to training wheels. At it's default setting, UAC in Windows 7 tells you when applications themselves try to gain administrative elevation. It does not tell you anymore when you do things that require administrative access.

I cannot imagine why people don't want to know when an application tries to elevate itself to admin on the box. Even if you are the super power user and know everything there is to know about the box....I would say that you might still be interested to know that some application potentially unknown to you at the moment is attempting to gain administrative rights.
Knowing what is going on is the key to anything in computer software.
And remember it doesnt matter what level you have UAC running at, it all comes down to what the person sitting at the keyboard knows/cares about in the end.
I agree with pparks1 and DarkXeon. The UAC is a warning - a "Do you really want to do this?" question.

In addition, if it is turned off, you cannot use "In-Private" browsing, which you can turn on all the time with this little tweak - Internet Explorer InPrivate Filtering - Keep On
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05 Nov 2009   #25
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LPDad View Post
Unfortunately, even running the UAC does not stop a lot of the new virus problems making the rounds:
Windows 7 vulnerable to 8 out of 10 viruses | Chester Wisniewski's Blog

Just have to be ever-vigilant.
that "test" is BS...
read this:https://www.sevenforums.com/system-se...0-viruses.html
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06 Nov 2009   #26
JJP

Win 7
 
 

I use Nitro PDF and running the program via the Task Manager shortcut as you suggest here works fine. But if I click on a pdf file UAC kicks in (even when Nitro is open). I need to open pdf files like this all the time so the method you suggest here won't work.

is there some other way round this?

Also,does TweakUAC work in Windows 7 as it did in Vista? If so, that would solve the problem.
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06 Nov 2009   #27
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Why do you need to run Nitro PDF as administrator? It should function without doing that!
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06 Nov 2009   #28
DarkXeno

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Something tells me you might have an older copy of Nitro if you have to run it as admin, and pdfs cause UAC to ask. Try to find a newer copy and uninstall the one you have and then reinstall the new one after reboot.
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06 Nov 2009   #29
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Why do you need to run Nitro PDF as administrator? It should function without doing that!
And this right here is the reason that I like to leave UAC enabled. You find out things like this....like why your PDF reader needs admin rights. Use FoxIT PDF reader instead would be my suggestion, as it doesn't need to be administrator and thus you will no longer see the UAC prompts.
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06 Nov 2009   #30
JJP

Win 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkXeno View Post
Something tells me you might have an older copy of Nitro if you have to run it as admin, and pdfs cause UAC to ask. Try to find a newer copy and uninstall the one you have and then reinstall the new one after reboot.
This was downloaded from Nitro site just before installing it so I assume it is the latest version available.
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