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Well I guess I'll use panda for now, so I guess I'll mark this solved. Thanks for everyone's help.
I didn't really like that Panda program so I gave MSE another try, but it still got stuck. I have malwarebyte pro and the free version of Super anti-spyware. Do you all think that might be enough?
With the free version if you turn off News in the settings it is ultra quiet.
I believe I already said how to remove Panda news on prior posts.
General settings all the way at the bottom Uncheck it.
I also said you do not have to associate an email account with Panda either just choose Later on the popup message after opening Panda.