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Windows 7: Avast antivirus destroys customized Start Menu orb unless . . .

20 Jun 2017   #1

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Avast antivirus destroys customized Start Menu orb unless . . .

I recently got fed up with AVG Free & decided to try Avast. The first time I rebooted my system after installing Avast, it reverted my Start Menu orb to the original system default. It took me a few tries before I got the problem squared away. First, you have to customize the Avast Behavior Shield by adding the Orb Changer program to the exclusion list. That lets you replace your customized orb. But it doesn't help you on the next reboot. However, Avast actually tells you that it doesn't like C:\Windows\expstart.exe during the reboot. So you need to also add that to the exclusions in the Behavior Shield customizations.

Before posting this I did try to search for threads whose titles included "Avast" and "orb." Problem is the search engine here says "orb" is too common or too long or too short as a search criterion & removes the word from the search keys. Not helpful. By the same token, that means that nobody is going to be able to find this post since "orb" is in the title. Or maybe not. If it ever happens that you search on something & get this post in your results, please post here how you searched. I'm curious about searches on "orb." Seems to me it's a bit extreme to discard "orb" as a search criterion when it's a legitimate jargon term within the operating system & something somebody might want to search on.

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21 Jun 2017   #2

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1

Just as a matter of interest, did you use the AVG Free uninstall utility to completely remove AVG before you installed Avast. Anti Virus programs can be hard to completely remove & if there are remnants left behind they can cause conflicts with another AV program.

This AVG website might help you if needed.

How to uninstall AVG software | AVG Support
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22 Jun 2017   #3

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Good point. As a matter of course, I always uninstall things using Revo Uninstaller, for which I have Seven Forums to thank. I learned of this wonderful product scrounging around here a couple of years ago. And my uninstall of AVG was no exception. There is a ton of junk left over after the built in AVG uninstaller runs. Thankfully, Revo found it & I was able to achieve total freedom from AVG Free. I must say, however, that I am not totally impressed with Avast, either. It wants to do things I am always telling it not to do, and it is always telling me about exploits that a legitimate program on my system is doing wrong. I suspect this legitimate program (Hola) is in cahoots with some less than reputable advertisers. But everything Avast tells me about prompts me to add a new line to my HOSTS file to block said disreputable advertiser. But Avast continues to claim Hola is still trying to get something from sites I've blocked. So I'm not so sure it's always true. Besides, as others have noted, Avast seems to be a vast bloatware, doing lots more things than just blocking viruses. I have CCleaner & Malwarebytes & Spybot. I don't think I need an antivirus program that duplicates their various functionalities. So I may be ditching Avast here soon enough. And I can assure you I'll be doing that with Revo as well.
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22 Jun 2017   #4
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1

Hi WildWilly.

I noticed in your bios this.
Mainframe programmer
I'm not sure what all that includes but if you look in the registry I would bet a dogs leg against a $1.00 that you will still find leftovers of Avast and AVG.

With the several anti virus programs I have tried, all left junk no matter what methods I used to remove them except using regedit after using Revo or the designated removal program. I'm sure you are aware that regedit must be used with caution or you could end up with a door stop.

Because of all the Junk added to most of today's anti virus programs I also run these programs after removing the anti virus program.

Malwarebytes | AdwCleaner

Free Virus Scan | Online Virus Scan from ESET ESET

Then because I'm paranoid I run (sfc /scannow)

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