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Windows 7: Test Your Firewall

28 Dec 2009   #11
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheIgster View Post
Just Windows Firewall and my router. Really don't need a firewall or security "suite" IMO:
Actually you can get the same result with only your router alone... (as most routers are set to stealth all ports)


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28 Dec 2009   #12
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

"Well, that's not what you said. You said it doesn't allow you to and it doesn't, but in fact it does."

no, where did you read that ?
read my post above again !

this is EXACTLY what i said: "yes, windows FW is stealth regarding INCOMING, but it doesnīt block OUTGOING connections,
which is the big problem with most firewalls."

who said that you can NOT block outgoing?

i said: "yes, you CAN block outgoing connections, but it requires a lot of manual configuration.
by default it doesnīt block"

"Oh and by the way, to properly quote a previous post, just hit the quote button."

why should i repeat a whole post when itīs enough to copy a few word as reference to what iīm replying to ?
there is a lot of unnecessary quoting in most threads...

and may i suggest that YOU read a post "properly" before you reply ?
please do NOT put words in my mouth...
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28 Dec 2009   #13
InternetLord

Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
hi !

yes, windows FW is stealth regarding INCOMING, but it doesnīt block OUTGOING connections,
which is the big problem with most firewalls.

finally someone who has a real clue. use zonealarm or kaspersky. if setup properly you will be asked on all new processes for both the internet and non internet zones. never use microsoft security software, including uac.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheIgster View Post
Just Windows Firewall and my router. Really don't need a firewall or security "suite" IMO:
Actually you can get the same result with only your router alone... (as most routers are set to stealth all ports)
jay if you are only relying on you router don't. that is a mistake. you do need both a hardware and software firewall.
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28 Dec 2009   #14
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
Actually you can get the same result with only your router alone... (as most routers are set to stealth all ports)
jay if you are only relying on you router don't. that is a mistake. you do need both a hardware and software firewall.
Thank you for your concern.
But don't worry about me.
I am one of those people in the forum who is very interested on IT security and experiment with all kinds of setup and betas..

Of course I am not relaying only on hardware firewall.

My point was that if you are behind the router those kinds of tests are pointless as it will more likely stealth all ports, not allowing those tests scan your ports...
another example: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 (scanned system's first 1056 ports, results: full stealth with only firewall router)
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28 Dec 2009   #15
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
and may i suggest that YOU read a post "properly" before you reply ?
please do NOT put words in my mouth...
Guess we agree to disagree because you clearly stated Windows Firewall does NOT block outgoing and in fact it does.

And, I would have less problems reading your posts if they weren't such a mess and you quoted properly as I pointed out. Not to mention proper grammar and punctuation.
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31 Dec 2009   #16
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

hi!

TheIgster: "Guess we agree to disagree"

no, i donīt agree.

TheIgster: "because you clearly stated Windows Firewall does NOT block outgoing and in fact it does."

the fact is, it does NOT block outgoing connections (by DEFAULT).

i already explained this in my 4th post in this thread: "yes, you CAN block outgoing connections, but it requires a lot of manual configuration.
by default it doesnīt block. "

"Well, that's not what you said. You said it doesn't allow you to and it doesn't, but in fact it does"

i NEVER said that you CANNOT block outgoing connections.

is this too difficult to understand ?

once again, do NOT put words in my mouth !

"And, I would have less problems reading your posts if they weren't such a mess and you quoted properly as I pointed out. Not to mention proper grammar and punctuation. "

may i suggest you take a REALLY good look at your OWN posts, before you start complaining about how other people write....

now that you pretend to be a "language-cop", why donīt you understand what i posted above ?

in english there is a big difference between "does not" & "can not"...

anyway, good to see that you are now obviously running out of arguments, since you are now trying bad excuses for not reading and understanding my previous posts.

however, right now while i was checking my previous posts, i noticed a minor error, that "TheIgster:" fell off from the text while i was editing, i was both tired & upset when i posted them.
but it should be quite obvious to both YOU and anyone else reading the thread who i was replying to...

PLEASE TheIgster, do us all a favor & READ my posts above !

and PLEASE do NOT "put words in my mouth",
which means: do NOT accuse me of writing / saying / posting something i have not done !

the EVIDENCE is in my previous posts above, for those that can read...
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31 Dec 2009   #17
mitchell64

Windows Seven Home Premium 32bit SP1
 
 

Comodo (Firewall only) Attachment 44909

Attachment 44910
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01 Jan 2010   #18
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by InternetLord View Post

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
Actually you can get the same result with only your router alone... (as most routers are set to stealth all ports)
jay if you are only relying on you router don't. that is a mistake. you do need both a hardware and software firewall.
Thank you for your concern.
But don't worry about me.
I am one of those people in the forum who is very interested on IT security and experiment with all kinds of setup and betas..

Of course I am not relaying only on hardware firewall.

My point was that if you are behind the router those kinds of tests are pointless as it will more likely stealth all ports, not allowing those tests scan your ports...
another example: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 (scanned system's first 1056 ports, results: full stealth with only firewall router)
I'm only using MSE and Win7 Firwall and this is what I get.
These other guys are playing word symantics.
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01 Jan 2010   #19
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

hi !

IggyAZ: "These other guys are playing word symantics."

if you are referring to me & TheIgster, then you donīt understand the difference,
you posted a picture of blocking INCOMING connections, i said that W7 firewall doesnīt block OUTGOING connections.
IN & OUT are two different directions...

TheIgster is lying, putting words in my mouth, do you call that "playing word symantics" ?
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01 Jan 2010   #20
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by internetlord View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
hi !

Yes, windows fw is stealth regarding incoming, but it doesnīt block outgoing connections,
which is the big problem with most firewalls.

finally someone who has a real clue.
thanks !
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