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Windows 7: AV With the Smallest Footprint

14 Jan 2010   #51
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
With the anti-virus being one of the most important component of your system, and ram being so cheap, why is this even an issue??? Its like being in the ring with one hand tied behind your back...
Well Tom here in India it not that cheap to get a RAM
If i need to buy 2 GB of RAM it have to spare around my 10 days salary.
Anyways i'm planning to upgrade my Computer then why should i waste money and in new Computer it would be DDR 3 or DDR 2..


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14 Jan 2010   #52
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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With the anti-virus being one of the most important component of your system, and ram being so cheap, why is this even an issue??? Its like being in the ring with one hand tied behind your back...
Killobytes? If something was chewing up gigabytes that would be a concern far more then a few kbs and a few there.

The largest process running here is seen in the image being the svchost.exe taking more then any av processes.

Hmm, what is this svchost.exe actually running? It is probably this guy - it does all the work:

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14 Jan 2010   #53
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capt.Jack Sparrow View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
With the anti-virus being one of the most important component of your system, and ram being so cheap, why is this even an issue??? Its like being in the ring with one hand tied behind your back...
Well Tom here in India it not that cheap to get a RAM
If i need to buy 2 GB of RAM it have to spare around my 10 days salary.
Anyways i'm planning to upgrade my Computer then why should i waste money and in new Computer it would be DDR 3 or DDR 2..
On the new build you will likely see a good 4gb or more depending on which flavor of 7 you plan to run there(32bit or 64bit) and simply won't be worried about a few killobytes!

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
With the anti-virus being one of the most important component of your system, and ram being so cheap, why is this even an issue??? Its like being in the ring with one hand tied behind your back...
Killobytes? If something was chewing up gigabytes that would be a concern far more then a few kbs and a few there.

The largest process running here is seen in the image being the svchost.exe taking more then any av processes.

Hmm, what is this svchost.exe actually running? It is probably this guy - it does all the work:

And if you below what you are covering up with the information prompt you will also see other instances of the svchost.exe running as well. That's what you have to take into consideration there since several instances will be running at the same time with each seeing a different amount of ram being used depending on what you have running at the time.

When looking at the image here you can how that looks.


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14 Jan 2010   #54
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Svchost.exe is a wrapper for dll's which cannot run by themselves.
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14 Jan 2010   #55
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
Svchost.exe is a wrapper for dll's which cannot run by themselves.

Right, .dlls have to be run either by a svchost.exe or by a rundll32.exe
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14 Jan 2010   #56
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

And you will see several instances at times depending on how much is loaded in the background. what was interesting there was those weren't from MSE, AVG, or another other AV or antimalware program but from having two IE windows open there.

Most av programs will take about 45-60mb of memory once you add all the processes up. The MSE was quite a bit less while still comiing in at some 75,000K while running a scan.
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14 Dec 2011   #57
cpuguru

Windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

Hello,

I just wanted to say trusting something like MSE is not smart. Microsoft does not keep up with viruses like Norton, AVG, etc... Please if your going to give advice know what your talking about.

Experienced Technician
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14 Dec 2011   #58
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cpuguru View Post
Hello,

I just wanted to say trusting something like MSE is not smart. Microsoft does not keep up with viruses like Norton, AVG, etc... Please if your going to give advice know what your talking about.

Experienced Technician
How experienced is this Technician??
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15 Dec 2011   #59
cpuguru

Windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

Would you like professional years or total amount of years working on computer systems? When someone is posting asking for which has the smallest footprint while on a budget it makes me cringe as people talk about how they only use MSE. For the technical user this would be an ok approach for proactive scans, but most users aren't in this category and with as many computers that have come into our shop because they were told that MSE would suffice I had speak up. I could go on and on about how I technically don't have a proactive antivirus and yet have never had anything past some spyware on each scan but what good would that do for those who aren't as equipped... I will say that if your looking for something with a relatively small foot print and has scored high on detection rates than I would most definitively suggest Avira free or paid version.

Thank you,

CpuGuru
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15 Dec 2011   #60
DwDanwoof

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Webroot antivirus
Near-Zero Impact on Performance and that truth
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2393918,00.asp
Is this one i use and i find is lighter on my pc than MSE
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