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Windows 7: Defender Refuses to Stay On

23 Jan 2010   #21
BWK

 

Ah...I see, thank you for the response. So essentially it was named correctly, Spynet.


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23 Jan 2010   #22
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post

jav, yes I agree, a restart would place the services in the state they are manually set to. crashnet, yes to you. I've already mentioned this. Right click scan, be it a file folder or drive will place the services back to their default state and will not change back until you restart, as mentioned, or go back into services manually before restart and disable them which is very inconvenient.

Edit: Ok, I've finally taken the time to read the link jav points to. This person is essentially saying the same thing I'm saying here. Services and settings will have to be re-disabled after any kind of scan.
yes, you are right.

But, unfortunately it is the same with almost all AV products which have real-time scanning.
Still in theory you should only need one restart!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BWK View Post
Ah...I see, thank you for the response. So essentially it was named correctly, Spynet.
You are welcome.
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23 Jan 2010   #23
crashnet

Win 7 x32 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
its a little odd that your Windows was warning you defender was disabled though, when i had AVG it just said that i had antispyware installed and it was fine, but i had the resident shield on
windows wasnt warning me @ defender. i would be notified defender was off only when i tried to start its UI
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23 Jan 2010   #24
crashnet

Win 7 x32 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BWK View Post
As for disabling information collection by MSE, Is there any way of doing so. That was why I didn't continue to use it. It wanted to much information sent back to them. that's just unnecessary bandwidth. I personally am not into the snooping of others information, I will voluntarily submit information to better a product but to just have it taken without consent just seems wrong. It's kind of like Googles snooping with our browsing habits.
As I stated I am all for volunteering information, but to just come and take it from me is in my eyes wrong.
there is a strong argument to defend this type of anonymous data collection: it actually has the potential to make the product much better, which in turn benefits the user.

in fact, the next wave of improvements in what computers can do for us is coming almost entirely from mining the "wisdom of the masses"... whether voluntary* or not, but always anonymous (one hopes)

to a degree, even google collecting your browsing habits is voluntary: you can always use another search engine...
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23 Jan 2010   #25
crashnet

Win 7 x32 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
But, unfortunately it is the same with almost all AV products which have real-time scanning.
Still in theory you should only need one restart!
just for the record, AVG's one resident scanner remained OFF after an on demand scan.

ideally, i wish i could set the resident scanner to go back off 10 minutes after an on demand scan....
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23 Jan 2010   #26
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crashnet View Post

just for the record, AVG's one resident scanner remained OFF after an on demand scan.

ideally, i wish i could set the resident scanner to go back off 10 minutes after an on demand scan....
It's not same.
In MSE if you turn off real-time scanner it will stay turned off aswell like with AVG.
And even after custom on-demand scan.
In this case you will just untick "real time protection"

But thing we were discussing was more advanced turning off.
Meaning we were turning off it's all services aswell.
So it will not show up on Task manager services, proccess or in the Tray.
It will completly turn it off.

But if you want just turn off real time scanning.
Then just untick it.
It will still be on, but it will consume minimal resourses.
In this case real time scanner (resident scanner) will be anyway off. The proccess which are on will be GUI, shell implemention (right click implemention) and things like that.
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23 Jan 2010   #27
crashnet

Win 7 x32 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jav View Post
Meaning we were turning off it's all services aswell.
So it will not show up on Task manager services, proccess or in the Tray.
It will completly turn it off.
ah ok i see what you mean. in my case, i don't mind the services remaining ON - i have plenty of RAM. most services use minimal if any CPU when they are "doing nothing"
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23 Jan 2010   #28
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crashnet View Post

ah ok i see what you mean. in my case, i don't mind the services remaining ON - i have plenty of RAM. most services use minimal if any CPU when they are "doing nothing"
I do agree with you.

But at the beginning I did understand that you wanted turn them off aswell.
That's why I explained all that stuff.

If you don't mind them, Then just untick option "real Time Protection" and that's it.
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