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Windows 7: Giving up on UAC

30 Jan 2010   #1
Anderson2

Windows 7
 
 
Giving up on UAC

After 10 days with Windows 7, I finally just had to give up on UAC and turned it off to get some work done. It was not the notifications that bothered me. I did not mind the notifications. In fact I could see their value. It was all the legacy programs that could not work correctly because they could not fully access their folders to modify their settings or whatever they needed to do that finally did it. I tried all the tricks recommended, took ownership, gave myself full control, ran exe files as administrator, etc.; nothing worked. Many programs still would not work correctly. When I finally gave up and turned UAC off everything finally worked correctly and I finally could get to doing some real work instead of futzing around with the OS.

My question now is the following. Is running W 7 with UAC turned off, firewall on, AV up-to-date, and malware checked and behind a router any more risky than when I ran XP? If not, that is the way I will go - just as I ran XP and preceding OSs for years. As long as I need to run programs that were not designed to run W 7's way this seems to be the only practical solution.


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30 Jan 2010   #2
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
After 10 days with Windows 7, I finally just had to give up on UAC and turned it off to get some work done. It was not the notifications that bothered me. I did not mind the notifications. In fact I could see their value. It was all the legacy programs that could not work correctly because they could not fully access their folders to modify their settings or whatever they needed to do that finally did it. I tried all the tricks recommended, took ownership, gave myself full control, ran exe files as administrator, etc.; nothing worked. Many programs still would not work correctly. When I finally gave up and turned UAC off everything finally worked correctly and I finally could get to doing some real work instead of futzing around with the OS.

My question now is the following. Is running W 7 with UAC turned off, firewall on, AV up-to-date, and malware checked and behind a router any more risky than when I ran XP? If not, that is the way I will go - just as I ran XP and preceding OSs for years. As long as I need to run programs that were not designed to run W 7's way this seems to be the only practical solution.
UAC off, system is as as secure as XP is, which is very poor. Replace any apps that don't work with 7's security measures. They are old and insecure anyway.
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30 Jan 2010   #3
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
After 10 days with Windows 7, I finally just had to give up on UAC and turned it off to get some work done. It was not the notifications that bothered me. I did not mind the notifications. In fact I could see their value. It was all the legacy programs that could not work correctly because they could not fully access their folders to modify their settings or whatever they needed to do that finally did it. I tried all the tricks recommended, took ownership, gave myself full control, ran exe files as administrator, etc.; nothing worked. Many programs still would not work correctly. When I finally gave up and turned UAC off everything finally worked correctly and I finally could get to doing some real work instead of futzing around with the OS.

My question now is the following. Is running W 7 with UAC turned off, firewall on, AV up-to-date, and malware checked and behind a router any more risky than when I ran XP? If not, that is the way I will go - just as I ran XP and preceding OSs for years. As long as I need to run programs that were not designed to run W 7's way this seems to be the only practical solution.

Its actaully less risky even with uac off/. win7 still has DEP, has other things that XP did not. We all turn off uac.

Ken
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30 Jan 2010   #4
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
After 10 days with Windows 7, I finally just had to give up on UAC and turned it off to get some work done. It was not the notifications that bothered me. I did not mind the notifications. In fact I could see their value. It was all the legacy programs that could not work correctly because they could not fully access their folders to modify their settings or whatever they needed to do that finally did it. I tried all the tricks recommended, took ownership, gave myself full control, ran exe files as administrator, etc.; nothing worked. Many programs still would not work correctly. When I finally gave up and turned UAC off everything finally worked correctly and I finally could get to doing some real work instead of futzing around with the OS.

My question now is the following. Is running W 7 with UAC turned off, firewall on, AV up-to-date, and malware checked and behind a router any more risky than when I ran XP? If not, that is the way I will go - just as I ran XP and preceding OSs for years. As long as I need to run programs that were not designed to run W 7's way this seems to be the only practical solution.

Its actaully less risky even with uac off/. win7 still has DEP, has other things that XP did not. We all turn off uac.

Ken
And give malware the run of your system - no protection, no protected mode in IE8.
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31 Jan 2010   #5
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
We all turn off uac.
Ken
Speak for yourself. I have NEVER had a need to turn of UAC in either Vista or in Windows 7. I seriously don't understand that applications you guys are using and what you are trying to do which makes UAC such an absolute nuisance. I'm a systems admin at work and have been able to run everything to do my job without having to resort to disabling UAC.

With that said, to the original poster, with UAC disabled you are no worse off than you were with Windows XP. I however to agree with others who have suggested that you should probably look into replacing the software that you use that will not work period with UAC.

But understand that there are those among us....who are computer enthusiasts, and are well versed in IT and do this professionally for a living that have no issues with UAC whatsoever.
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31 Jan 2010   #6
m3gaman

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

UAC was annoying in the early days of Vista but It's never bothered me in windows 7
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31 Jan 2010   #7
Anderson2

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
After 10 days with Windows 7, I finally just had to give up on UAC and turned it off to get some work done. It was not the notifications that bothered me. I did not mind the notifications. In fact I could see their value. It was all the legacy programs that could not work correctly because they could not fully access their folders to modify their settings or whatever they needed to do that finally did it. I tried all the tricks recommended, took ownership, gave myself full control, ran exe files as administrator, etc.; nothing worked. Many programs still would not work correctly. When I finally gave up and turned UAC off everything finally worked correctly and I finally could get to doing some real work instead of futzing around with the OS.

My question now is the following. Is running W 7 with UAC turned off, firewall on, AV up-to-date, and malware checked and behind a router any more risky than when I ran XP? If not, that is the way I will go - just as I ran XP and preceding OSs for years. As long as I need to run programs that were not designed to run W 7's way this seems to be the only practical solution.

Its actaully less risky even with uac off/. win7 still has DEP, has other things that XP did not. We all turn off uac.

Ken
And give malware the run of your system - no protection, no protected mode in IE8.
Actually I don't use IE except for windows updates. So that is not a problem for me.

I hear you pparks1, but some apps I need still do not have updates that work correctly in W 7 and even though I am quite computer literate and have used them extensively since the Apple II days and the original PC I obviously do not have your level of expertise (nor the time to fight the OS). Besides replacing all my apps for the latest versions so they work better in W 7 is an expensive proposition.....
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31 Jan 2010   #8
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Anderson2 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
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Its actaully less risky even with uac off/. win7 still has DEP, has other things that XP did not. We all turn off uac.

Ken
And give malware the run of your system - no protection, no protected mode in IE8.
Actually I don't use IE except for windows updates. So that is not a problem for me.
Windows Updates are separate from IE8, the point is if malware gets through your browser and your security app - and it might - it will have full unobstructed access to your PC. UAC will not protect you.
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31 Jan 2010   #9
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
Windows Updates are separate from IE8, the point is if malware gets through your browser and your security app - and it might - it will have full unobstructed access to your PC. UAC will not protect you.
And either way, that's no worse that anything that existing with Windows XP.
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31 Jan 2010   #10
Anderson2

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by m3gaman View Post
UAC was annoying in the early days of Vista but It's never bothered me in windows 7
I am willing to live with annoying. It is getting apps I own to work correctly in W 7 that is my problem. I guess you are using the latest versions of programs written with W 7 in mind.
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