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Windows 7: Windows 7 without Antivirus

31 Jan 2010   #21
Capella

Windows 7 64 bit build 7600
 
 

I know about the ram. I'm not really that concerned about it actually that much but im concerned about the cpu spikes. It is actually causing noticeable lags in file copying performance and my winsat score decreased slightly.
Ill keep the program....But i still think avs are more troublesome than the rare malware....


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31 Jan 2010   #22
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
I know about the ram. I'm not really that concerned about it actually that much but im concerned about the cpu spikes. It is actually causing noticeable lags in file copying performance and my winsat score decreased slightly.
Ill keep the program....But i still think avs are more troublesome than the rare malware....
Well, each to their own but I haven't noticed any of what you described.
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31 Jan 2010   #23
Capella

Windows 7 64 bit build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
I know about the ram. I'm not really that concerned about it actually that much but im concerned about the cpu spikes. It is actually causing noticeable lags in file copying performance and my winsat score decreased slightly.
Ill keep the program....But i still think avs are more troublesome than the rare malware....
Well, each to their own but I haven't noticed any of what you described.
All you need to do is highlight your antimalware service. Then, go to internet explorer and switch between pages, or open up a program, or start an installer, or do anything really XD...You will see how the cpu usage changes. It drops back down almost immediately but it was enough to make a difference on my system.

Still, its better than mcaffee, symantec, or avast. ...
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31 Jan 2010   #24
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
I know about the ram. I'm not really that concerned about it actually that much but im concerned about the cpu spikes. It is actually causing noticeable lags in file copying performance and my winsat score decreased slightly.
Ill keep the program....But i still think avs are more troublesome than the rare malware....
Well, each to their own but I haven't noticed any of what you described.
All you need to do is highlight your antimalware service. Then, go to internet explorer and switch between pages, or open up a program, or start an installer, or do anything really XD...You will see how the cpu usage changes. It drops back down almost immediately but it was enough to make a difference on my system.

Still, its better than mcaffee, symantec, or avast. ...
Eh it jumped to about 6% of CPU usage. Which didn't lag me at all.. maybe something else is happening on your system. Perhaps you have malware! !
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31 Jan 2010   #25
Capella

Windows 7 64 bit build 7600
 
 

Hmm, My suspicion is that this is normal behavior directly after installing the av. It will spike for a while. Then, after several reboots and several incidents in which it has finished checking all the system files and everything, its usage will drop down significantly. Ill deal with it for now.
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31 Jan 2010   #26
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
Hmm, My suspicion is that this is normal behavior directly after installing the av. It will spike for a while. Then, after several reboots and several incidents in which it has finished checking all the system files and everything, its usage will drop down significantly. Ill deal with it for now.
Have you defragmented recently? Always helps.
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31 Jan 2010   #27
Orpheous

XP Pro/Vista Ultimate (64)/Windows 7 Ultimate Signature Edition(64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
I know about the ram. I'm not really that concerned about it actually that much but im concerned about the cpu spikes. It is actually causing noticeable lags in file copying performance and my winsat score decreased slightly.
Ill keep the program....But i still think avs are more troublesome than the rare malware....
I don't see the problem in running your operating system without an antivirus porgram, as long as you strictly follow these guidelines:
  • Format, then install ONLY your operating system
  • Remove all network cards and disable LAN in BIOS
  • Remove/disable all wireless connectivity & dial up modems
  • Remove all CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drives &/or access to them
  • Disable all usb/firewire/eSATA/removable media ports - fill them full of epoxy resin to make sure nothing can be inserted
  • Only buy and install hard drives that have been heat sealed inside anti static bags.
  • Put a padlock on your case so no-one else can install usb headers, drives etc.
  • Have fun with your totally virus free and protected computer!
Seriously though, safe computing other than in the form mentioned above doesn't exist. Most security configurations are a trade off between usability and total lockdown, with the mid point being acceptable on reasonable hardware.

I'm positive that a very high percentage of members on this site would have experienced the loss of important data due to infections in the past. Being unable to recover years of family photos etc. is heartbreaking, and I sincerely hope that it never happens to you.
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31 Jan 2010   #28
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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I don't go to any really malicious sites and I find that antiviruses are usually more trouble than they are worth.
I haven't generally found that AV apps cause much trouble at all on computers. As far as malicious sites...I generally don't go to them either, but just clicking on a link from a google search could result it hitting something that you weren't expecting.

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Microsoft security essentials takes around 50 mb of ram
Is your computer really starved for RAM? I mean 50MB of ram on my system is less than 1% of my RAM. For comparison sake, I have Google Chrome 4 running right now with this open in 1 tab and one other website in another tab that is using 6 different processes and using 140MB of RAM. And in all honesty, my browser is really just sitting there doing absolutely nothing.
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31 Jan 2010   #29
Capella

Windows 7 64 bit build 7600
 
 

0% defrag , no malware, im running intel core i5 . Ill wait a few days and I expect the spikes to improve. (dangerously optimistic)
btw, Ive found many places online that talks about the cpu spikes with mse. Just google.

Im simply concerned about the loading of the ram at startup. parks. Before the mse, I know that after I type in password, windows almost immediately changes to the desktop (around 2 seconds) After mse, the time is greatly increased (around 10 seconds) I went to mse and disabled the check removable drives option. the time decreased to around 7 or 8 seconds.

@Orpheus: were you being serious? about the disable everything suggestion lol
I don't really do much on my computer, no storing massive amounts of family photos, etc (im not an adult!) I simply store schoolwork documents.

"I'm positive that a very high percentage of members on this site would have experienced the loss of important data due to infections in the past."

Really...?
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31 Jan 2010   #30
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capella View Post
0% defrag , no malware, im running intel core i5 . Ill wait a few days and I expect the spikes to improve. (dangerously optimistic)
btw, Ive found many places online that talks about the cpu spikes with mse. Just google.
Lol wow. If anything I should be getting the spikes, not you.
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