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Windows 7: AV Testing

25 Feb 2010   #41
chubalz

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit SP1
 
 

The issue is about best AV's.

Im using Avast Free.

Its about the AV's Result.

One member says Avast did worst in detecting. Norton won.

Its fine for that.

But im sure Norton has no sandbox right?


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25 Feb 2010   #42
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chubalz View Post
Its really funny.

Avast Free compared to Paid Norton Internet Security

Did you try Avast Internet Security? I mean did you try sandbox?

I do hope norton has sandbox?

100% of your system is safe using sandbox even new malware.

AV's cant detect new malwares it need to update your AV's right?

Sandbox dont need to update. Even latest malware cant harm your system.

If Norton has sandbox then i would agree norton is the safest AV's or Internet Security of all.
The testing I conducted has nothing to do with firewalls or sandbox's. It is AV testing.
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25 Feb 2010   #43
chubalz

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TheIgster View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chubalz View Post
Its really funny.

Avast Free compared to Paid Norton Internet Security

Did you try Avast Internet Security? I mean did you try sandbox?

I do hope norton has sandbox?

100% of your system is safe using sandbox even new malware.

AV's cant detect new malwares it need to update your AV's right?

Sandbox dont need to update. Even latest malware cant harm your system.

If Norton has sandbox then i would agree norton is the safest AV's or Internet Security of all.
The testing I conducted has nothing to do with firewalls or sandbox's. It is AV testing.
Yep i know.

I just commented for Norton.

Its really Funny for that comparing full features VS Avast free

He says Norton Internet Security 2010 sonar detected that Norton 360 missed.
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25 Feb 2010   #44
jav

Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chubalz View Post
Its really funny.

Avast Free compared to Paid Norton Internet Security

Did you try Avast Internet Security? I mean did you try sandbox?

I do hope norton has sandbox?

100% of your system is safe using sandbox even new malware.

AV's cant detect new malwares it need to update your AV's right?

Sandbox dont need to update. Even latest malware cant harm your system.

If Norton has sandbox then i would agree norton is the safest AV's or Internet Security of all.
Problem with Avast sandbox is that it's not yet finished and it's far from being perfect.
There were a lots of feedback from users that sandbox isn't working as supposed and that there a bypasses from sandbox and slowdowns of system.
So, it's can't guarantee 100% security as you say...

And in may opinion sandboxie works better then Avast sandbox
Unfortunately we have to wait until developer fix all issues and finish the product.

Quote from Avast Global moderator:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=53791.0
ace11, I don't know if you're the author of the video but in any case, thanks for posting a link to it.

It's indeed interesting.

We have been testing the sandbox with many malware samples and it usually did a good job at stopping them (i.e. isolated them). On the other hand, there are still weaker spots which we are, and will be, trying address to continuously (remember that the product has been released just yesterday).

But frankly, I don't believe the product will ever get to a state where it will be "perfect". I mean, I don't believe in silver bullets, and especially when it comes to security.

The sandbox is an extra layer of protection which makes great sense as it works differently than the other layers, and therefore has different strengths and weaknesses. It does a good job at stopping (or shall we say shielding) many samples that could be missed by the other layers. But no, it does not provide a 100% security (and whoever tells you their product provides a 100% security, don't believe him; all these systems work on a "best effort" basis, i.e. they're all penetrable).

Now, again, I'm not trying to discount the findings of the video, it's definitely worth looking into and that's exactly what we will do.

Thanks
Vlk
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25 Feb 2010   #45
chubalz

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Actually im using Avast Free, MBAM and Sandbox.

About your post. Its dated Jan 20. Its over a month already.

I dont want to debate but i think its fixed already?

Im not sure about his but it seems no more complain about Avast Sandbox now? Right?

Peace!
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25 Feb 2010   #46
GeorgeB

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chubalz View Post
Actually im using Avast Free, MBAM and Sandbox.

About your post. Its dated Jan 20. Its over a month already.

I dont want to debate but i think its fixed already?

Im not sure about his but it seems no more complain about Avast Sandbox now? Right?

Peace!
Here is a recent review on Avast 5

avast! Free Antivirus 5.0 - At A Glance - Reviews by PC Magazine
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26 Feb 2010   #47
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

Today I scanned 1 infected flash drive using Avast and Vipre AV>
While Avast managed to catch just 2 infections, Vipre caught 4 infections.
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Vipre also blocked 5-6 files from automatically opening while Avast didn't notify about any infection.
I still dont mean that Vipre is better than Avast or vice-versa. All I want to say is that no AV is 100% perfect.


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27 Feb 2010   #48
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

OK, so some interesting results last night. Finished up pretty late so posting the results this morning. Included in the test (I ran out of time for any others) were:
  1. Avast Free 5
  2. ClamWin
  3. G Data
  4. Immunet Protect
  5. Kaspersky
  6. Norman
  7. Norton AntiVirus 2010
  8. Panda AntiVirus Pro

All latest versions I could download, all allowed to update any required information (program and signatures) and all set to default out-of-the-box settings. All tested in shadow mode using Shadow Defender and all done on Windows 7 64-bit.

Used 25 malware links that were found that day (some consider these zero day threats, while others may say one day threats). Included in those were rogues, bots, droppers, etc. No real focus on any one thing. Just lots of nasties, including a rogue AV called PC Defender. Not really sure how nasty it was, but it got by everyone except for one.

Stopped/Reported means just that, the AV reported there was a threat and it had been stopped or dealt with. No Reported Threat means the AV didn't say anything and it appeared the threat got through. How dangerous the threat was is anyone's guess. MBAM Infections Found means that once the test was over, Malwareybytes Antimalware was loaded, updated and ran (just a simple quick scan) and the # of infections found was reported.

Results (Worst to Best):

8. ClamWin

Stopped/Reported: 0
No Reported Threat: 25
MBAM Infections Found: 45

Overall: 0%

7. Immunet Protect

Stopped/Reported: 5
No Reported Threat: 20
MBAM Infections Found: 35

Overall: 20%

6. Norman

Stopped/Reported: 5
No Reported Threat: 20
MBAM Infections Found: 33

Overall: 20%

5. Panda AntiVirus Pro

Stopped/Reported: 12
No Reported Threat: 13
MBAM Infections Found: 35

Overall: 48%

4. Norton AntiVirus 2010

Stopped/Reported: 13
No Reported Threat: 12
MBAM Infections Found: 22

Overall: 52%

3. Avast

Stopped/Reported: 16
No Reported Threat: 9
MBAM Infections Found: 27

Overall: 64%

2. G Data

Stopped/Reported: 18
No Reported Threat: 7
MBAM Infections Found: 22

Overall: 72%

1. Kaspersky

Stopped/Reported: 20
No Reported Threat: 5
MBAM Infections Found: 2

Overall: 80%

So there you have it. Avast finally not perfect anymore and neither is Kaspersky, although Kaspersky did an excellent job and was the ONLY one to not allow the rogue AV PC Defender to get in and start displaying pop-ups and tray alerts. Kaspersky also had a note that a reboot was required, so it might have even removed the other two upon a reboot, but I could not reboot to see while running in shadow mode. I think it would be fair to almost give Kaspersky an honorary 100%.

Couple of other side notes. G Data was a huge download, and was the only one that required a reboot after install as well as a reboot after updating. What a pain. It did really well though, although it did also give me a prompt when downloading and installing MBAM (looked like some sort of HIPS prompt), so I'm not sure if it was prompting for just about everything, or it truly was doing as well as it did.

Also, I had to go on the hunt for something to uninstall Panda because it immediately displayed an error when I tried to uninstall it. That was also a pain. Even a reinstall and another uninstall would not work. It's great if the AV does not require a reboot after installing because all of it can be done in shadow mode, allowing me to simply reboot and move on the the next test, although I installed Panda by accident not in shadow mode, thus the trouble.

So again, not saying one is any better than the other and these tests are not professional or scientific by any means, but more links used this time. So take from this test what you will.
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27 Feb 2010   #49
TheIgster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Apparently it was an assumption on my part that AV software actually acts as AV software and has realtime protection, but nope, ClamWin does not, so I guess we can ignore the results of ClamWin. Wow, what a waste of time. From their site: Please note that ClamWin Free Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware
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27 Feb 2010   #50
Dinesh

Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
 
 

Hi, how is G Data according to you?
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