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Windows 7: NOD32 caused slow-down, AVAST hasn't

02 Mar 2010   #21
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by remm View Post
Btw, what CPU/chipset does your system have?
see my specs...


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02 Mar 2010   #22
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

790X chipset - good choice.
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02 Mar 2010   #23
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

Thanks . This is a brand new build. I had a SSD in it but it died . Waiting for a replacement.

Sorry for going OT btw
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02 Mar 2010   #24
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
Thanks . This is a brand new build. I had a SSD in it but it died . Waiting for a replacement.

Sorry for going OT btw
No problem - if that 945 is AM3 socket I'd put in DDR3 RAM, but I think its Socket AM2+. That card isn't for gaming though - but you probably know that.
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02 Mar 2010   #25
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

The board doesn't support DDR3. The gfx card, I know. I don't play games and just wanted one good enough to connect via HDMI. Still umming about an upgrade though
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02 Mar 2010   #26
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k View Post
The board doesn't support DDR3. The gfx card, I know. I don't play games and just wanted one good enough to connect via HDMI. Still umming about an upgrade though
5670 or 5570 to save cash. I chose a 5570. GDDR3 is enough for 7, and it fully supports DirectX11.
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02 Mar 2010   #27
tw33k

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
 
 

Thanks! I'll continue to ponder
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02 Mar 2010   #28
remm

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

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Here we go again. I don't care if Microsoft records my IP address or my film history from WMP or inserting code to check if its legal or anything. Does Microsoft care? No - apart from the legality of the OS.
There was a time back in the day when you could buy a computer without an OS, and it was less money too. Today, thanks to MS, no one who buys a computer gets away without buying an OS with it, and the vast majority of those computers are PCs with Windows... which you have to buy even if you want Linux... (unless you happen to find a computer you want that is offered with a Linux option).

So the point is, unless you build your own system, you are buying an OS with your computer. And while many people DO build their own systems (I do), those who do are a tiny minority comparatively AND stats show laptops have surpassed desktops in sales. And we can't build our own laptops. (I have 2 laptops and a desktop... and btw, had to buy VISTA on both laptops, even though I wanted XP on one, and already bought XP three times!!)

All to say, the vast majority of people ... the VERY GREAT majority, have purchased their OS legally... many times over. Because MS made it the law that computers must be sold with an OS.

Now, having said that, MS also decided it didn't need to bother wasting money supplying you with a CD anymore. No. In their infinite wisdom they decided they would use a portion of YOUR hard disk space -- whether you like it or not -- to put a hidden "recovery partition" that can only restore the system back to the default... wiping all your programs and tweaks, and re-installing all that crapware. Like anyone with a choice is going to opt to do THAT!

So now what's happened? People have turned to downloading the OS via torrents and binaries so they can get an actual CD with a repair option... like they PAID for but didn't get because this multi-billion dollar company owned by the richest man in the world, doesn't want to spend a few pennies to make a CD for you anymore... EVEN though you are paying more than ever for the OS!! And HAVE to buy it when you get a computer! And because systems have become so sophisticated, and people spend MONTHS getting their computer just right with proggies and tweaks and customizations, reinstalling from the ridiculous "recovery partition" is NOT what the customer needs! We need a repair disk that will get us back up and running intact. (Which MS has FINALLY started supplying from their website, but not before forcing hundreds of thousands of geeks to learn how to torrent or download binaries! That is a perfect example of how short-sighted MS is!)

And as long as people have had to go to all this trouble, many go a step further (like I do) and use tools like nLite to slipstream a custom version of the OS, with system's drivers, and an elimination of the MS products included in the OS they paid for, but don't want installed.


So will MSE see these custom installs as "legit" OSs? I don't know and I don't care. I would never use MSE in a million years. Not even if MS started giving their OSs away for free... and paid me to install MSE.
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02 Mar 2010   #29
antharr

Windows 7 64x
 
 

I love Nod32. I have been using it for years. I will install another antivirus from time to time to give it a test run but always come back to Nod. I ran it for the life of XP and haven't had any issues with 7 so far.
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02 Mar 2010   #30
antharr

Windows 7 64x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by remm View Post
Quote:
Here we go again. I don't care if Microsoft records my IP address or my film history from WMP or inserting code to check if its legal or anything. Does Microsoft care? No - apart from the legality of the OS.
There was a time back in the day when you could buy a computer without an OS, and it was less money too. Today, thanks to MS, no one who buys a computer gets away without buying an OS with it, and the vast majority of those computers are PCs with Windows... which you have to buy even if you want Linux... (unless you happen to find a computer you want that is offered with a Linux option).

So the point is, unless you build your own system, you are buying an OS with your computer. And while many people DO build their own systems (I do), those who do are a tiny minority comparatively AND stats show laptops have surpassed desktops in sales. And we can't build our own laptops. (I have 2 laptops and a desktop... and btw, had to buy VISTA on both laptops, even though I wanted XP on one, and already bought XP three times!!)

All to say, the vast majority of people ... the VERY GREAT majority, have purchased their OS legally... many times over. Because MS made it the law that computers must be sold with an OS.

Now, having said that, MS also decided it didn't need to bother wasting money supplying you with a CD anymore. No. In their infinite wisdom they decided they would use a portion of YOUR hard disk space -- whether you like it or not -- to put a hidden "recovery partition" that can only restore the system back to the default... wiping all your programs and tweaks, and re-installing all that crapware. Like anyone with a choice is going to opt to do THAT!

So now what's happened? People have turned to downloading the OS via torrents and binaries so they can get an actual CD with a repair option... like they PAID for but didn't get because this multi-billion dollar company owned by the richest man in the world, doesn't want to spend a few pennies to make a CD for you anymore... EVEN though you are paying more than ever for the OS!! And HAVE to buy it when you get a computer! And because systems have become so sophisticated, and people spend MONTHS getting their computer just right with proggies and tweaks and customizations, reinstalling from the ridiculous "recovery partition" is NOT what the customer needs! We need a repair disk that will get us back up and running intact. (Which MS has FINALLY started supplying from their website, but not before forcing hundreds of thousands of geeks to learn how to torrent or download binaries! That is a perfect example of how short-sighted MS is!)

And as long as people have had to go to all this trouble, many go a step further (like I do) and use tools like nLite to slipstream a custom version of the OS, with system's drivers, and an elimination of the MS products included in the OS they paid for, but don't want installed.


So will MSE see these custom installs as "legit" OSs? I don't know and I don't care. I would never use MSE in a million years. Not even if MS started giving their OSs away for free... and paid me to install MSE.
I agree 100%. I don't see why I have to spend hours cleaning crapware off a new laptop.
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