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Windows 7: What's the Best Anti-virus?

21 Dec 2014   #1021
mdd1963

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Currently using 360TS and for a firewall, Personal Firewall....

As long as you don't mind "Allow/Block" popups once in a while attempting to D/L assorted files/programs, the combo seems to work well...; in fact, the firewall seems pretty darned attentive, and gives me 10 times more 'allow/block' interactions than the AV itself...

(Try to D/L the "GiveMePower" app with these tools running; impossible! )


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22 Dec 2014   #1022
LarryA

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 BIT
 
 

Very interesting thread and comments. have a couple of questions. Windows 7 64 bit comes with a built in firewall and most routers have a firewall as well. For a loaded question depend on use does a third party firewall really help that much?

What AV software has good tech support?
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22 Dec 2014   #1023
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The Windows firewall as well as that you find with a router mostly control permissions. With the firewall on a router you have at least have guest access by logging in with a user name and password much like logging into a user account on a pc in order to have internet access. The Windows firewall prevents program installs and startups when not added in as exceptions.

Don't think for a minute that will prevent a lengthy list of malwares that once downloaded on the drive can still wreck some havoc since many are written to get around them. Those types of firewalls have very limited malware code type detection and why you still need a good degree of layered protections in place. I've run into this on a number of occasions where even the better av programs can be stumped by how some once on the system take control of certain system processes like the task manager to prevent removal until the key component is manually traced and removed.
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22 Dec 2014   #1024
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
The Windows firewall as well as that you find with a router mostly control permissions. With the firewall on a router you have at least have guest access by logging in with a user name and password much like logging into a user account on a pc in order to have internet access. The Windows firewall prevents program installs and startups when not added in as exceptions.

Don't think for a minute that will prevent a lengthy list of malwares that once downloaded on the drive can still wreck some havoc since many are written to get around them. Those types of firewalls have very limited malware code type detection and why you still need a good degree of layered protections in place. I've run into this on a number of occasions where even the better av programs can be stumped by how some once on the system take control of certain system processes like the task manager to prevent removal until the key component is manually traced and removed.
Night Hawk, just for info. Some dual routers/modem have different settings. Mine has low, med, high and suspend. Some might even have custom setting. What I can't figure out is if the firewall is just for wifi or for both Ethernet & WiFi. Hopefully, both. I wouldn't recommend high though unless you want to type all web addresses in the exclusion field. I use low, low won't stop it, med, custom, or high won't stop malware either if you excluded the website that cause the problem.


LarryA
At least I would recommend getting Microsoft Security Essentials for windows 7 if you don't get a virus protection program.

Microsoft Security Essentials - Microsoft Windows

Download Microsoft Security Essentials from Official Microsoft Download Center (Make sure you choose the correct version here)
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22 Dec 2014   #1025
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Mostly the firewall on any router is there to prevent unauthorized access to the network or web. I actually ran into that type of problem on the old router I had here where everybody went through the old G type lacking a firewall! Someone pulls up out front of the house could use the WiFi without any need to log in!

Once I got into the updated N type also by Cisco I then had to set up the laptops as well as the remote desktop here to be logged on automatically. The levels you have there are for raising the security requirement for each machine that will log onto the web through it.
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22 Dec 2014   #1026
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yep well I have had Kaspersky for five years now and it auto switches off any other firewall and at least I can configure it to my own preferences - I admit I have never tried that with the Windows one.

My router/modem a TP-Link had to be set for what security and it took some doing with having TP-Link support guiding me through it as I would never have got it up and running. I opted for the WPA2-PSK and for the record I always have the thing cabled as I am not a great fan of wifi.

But as always and I must sound a bit repetitive the best security is the person operating the keyboard because logic tells one nothing is infallible.
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22 Dec 2014   #1027
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

No such animal as a 100% Fail Proof setup to find! Common sense is one of the greatest tools when ever you have suspicions about any link to some unknown site which can keep you out of trouble! The firewall included with the av program here may seem to block too many sites when not finding any bugs but will keep you from running smack into one with bugs at the same time by use of an effective web filter which is another smart tool to have in the layers of protection.
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22 Dec 2014   #1028
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
No such animal as a 100% Fail Proof setup to find! Common sense is one of the greatest tools when ever you have suspicions about any link to some unknown site which can keep you out of trouble! The firewall included with the av program here may seem to block too many sites when not finding any bugs but will keep you from running smack into one with bugs at the same time by use of an effective web filter which is another smart tool to have in the layers of protection.
Now we are one the same full stop Night Hawk like I said before if the buttons are not pushed then nothing can get in eh?

Plus when you think of 50,000 new malwares per day unless you have first hand knowledge of them how the dickens can you spot them when they are released anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming.

Having said that I do believe in having a decent paid for with back up - free on call scanners. In a sick sense it makes life a little more interesting in a way and it does keep this thread going LOL!!
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22 Dec 2014   #1029
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
No such animal as a 100% Fail Proof setup to find! Common sense is one of the greatest tools when ever you have suspicions about any link to some unknown site which can keep you out of trouble! The firewall included with the av program here may seem to block too many sites when not finding any bugs but will keep you from running smack into one with bugs at the same time by use of an effective web filter which is another smart tool to have in the layers of protection.
Now we are one the same full stop Night Hawk like I said before if the buttons are not pushed then nothing can get in eh?

Plus when you think of 50,000 new malwares per day unless you have first hand knowledge of them how the dickens can you spot them when they are released anyone who thinks otherwise is dreaming.

Having said that I do believe in having a decent paid for with back up - free on call scanners. In a sick sense it makes life a little more interesting in a way and it does keep this thread going LOL!!
The problem I have here is not from getting them except for the observations when trying out something new and the av flags the download when you open the storage folder on a second never primary drive and puts into quaranteen. Why? Some installer will have an IE toolbar installer or McAFail trial you have to make sure to uncheck when trying out some new freebie.

The things I deal with most are the bugs other people seem to get nailed with when loaning out a laptop to one of their kids or blondering into a nasty site. The kids for some time would "CLICK on EVERYTHING"! and you know right where that leads to! Malware Wonderland! Recently it wasn't even on a laptop or desktop pc but a scamware on a smartphone when someone went to music site when being sent a link and WHAMO! It was a phony that locked the phone up until you paid $300 fine(Bogus of course) with the name of one of the social networks on it showing how bold some of these malware writers are.

There is one place however you can report something like to on the web if I didn't already mention this earlier in the event you have a source like a bad site you can report or order something from a supposed hardware vendor like one scam site I ran across a few years back off of a well known shopping site believe it or not when searching for a new MB to replace what was in the old case. I didn't know about this site back then and later learned the clown running the phony pc hardware site tried to make a $2,600 purchase in Istanbul, Turkey using my card! Internet Crime Complaint Center

So it isn't just malwares afterall but being able to screen for any number of things! The place was set up just like another legit site with the security but mal intent not malware was the deal there.
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22 Dec 2014   #1030
LarryA

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 BIT
 
 

Tried one AV well known had a number of malware intrusions and 2 virus. Never had a virus issue. The AV could not find the virus or malware. The AV does not have a Firewall using the Windows 7 exclusively. The AV stopped working.

Very care full what e mails I open and web sights venture to very limited that is why I was asking.

If you are on MSN as an example or SevenForums the computer could get infected with malware or virus from the net? Thought you had to open an e mail, do a down load or go to a web sight that has virus or malware?

Thank You my knowledge on virus and malware is very limited since it has never been an issue until recently.
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