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Windows 7: What's the Best Anti-virus?

23 Dec 2014   #1041
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

If you download a utility like the free Media Player that resembles what comes in 7 namely the WMP the av here will flag the installer before you even click on it! That's because the option for an unwanted IE toolbar needs to be unchecked during the install. The software also finds bugs hidden inside rar and zip files other programs miss completely until...

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24 Dec 2014   #1042

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 BIT

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
You'd be surprised on how many third party security suites are more closely comparable to Viruses

Just found a web sight where you can up load files and do a virus scan. Works well for a single file. Also provides edit information on the file.

Right clicked the .bat file & selected edit. According to Virus Total it is a safe .bat file. Having it analyze by Symantech.

@echo off
echo Cleaning up LogMeIn Rescue Applet folder...
rd /S/Q "C:\Users\My Name\AppData\Local\LogMeIn Rescue Applet\LMIR0001.tmp\" > NUL
rd /Q "C:\Windows\system32\config\systemprofile\AppData\Local\LogMeIn Rescue Applet"
del "C:\Users\My name\AppData\Local\LMIR0001.tmp.bat"
del "C:\Users\My Name\AppData\Local\LMIR0001.tmp_r.bat"
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24 Dec 2014   #1043
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

I think that will be useful to bookmark for on the spot instant checks! Here however if I download a new app and then go to the folder where it gets saved VIPRE will spring to life if any other type of installer like IE toolbar option is present and labels it adware.

Any questionable files are instantly tossed into the temp quaranteen folder until user retrieved. If your av lacks however this site should be considered as it instantly identifies any prevoiusly scanned files reported by a long list of av programs good or bad in the results.
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24 Dec 2014   #1044

Windows XP Pro SP3, Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, Windows XP Home SP3
follow money

I did a fairly large cleanup on a MacBook pro a few days ago - a paid gig.
of course the user was shocked, though the damage to performance was pretty obvious.

so later I was reflecting on the great meaning of it all... The PC industry is rapidly shrinking and a lot of "periphery" development that was fun back in the heyday has been exterminated. others hang on hoping for a few pennies here and there. Real money however is being spent on browsers, and on hackery - and somehow the two have become, I think, allied if somewhat accidentally.
The "AV package" people are not investing in the products they peddle anymore - its like a big inside joke. They know it is fruitless, they know most users are ignorant, and so the game goes on. Their wares increasingly will be marketable to bidders wearing black, gray, or whitish hats.
Malware guys will target browsers and of course adware, spending their brightest/best efforts on handsets as do all the other players.

Browserware is getting really, really complicated - its like an operating system riding on top of an operating system, or a VM without the encumbrance of much hardware. [this approach of course has been Google's intent from the beginning of Chrome-things]. The three leaders have a bit of a tiger-by-the-tail - they can't NOT spend the effort to keep apace, but doing so has an escalating cost/investment curve and how do they get paid for their efforts?

Grayware/ad-hijack-ware/marketing-pushware/search&divert-ware - all of these could be classified as "non-malware" but from my vantagepoint of being the go-to guy when a customer's machine is serving someone other than the user, they're all the work of the devil. But the browser guys can't afford to see it that way, can they? especially not Mozilla - One wonders how long they can keep at it. Google and MS don't care whether the browser itself pays for itself - its a strategic product, not a profit-product.

I'm hopeful that as pc's are abandoned and the docked handset becomes the PC, some sophisticated "good guys" intent on protecting us from the inevitable will find a way to turn a profit on doing so.
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24 Dec 2014   #1045
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

Well as far as the desktop pc there will always be some form of it since the business world depends on it! As for the average Jack or Jill home user Tablets substitute for laptops which have been made to sub for desktops with the ability to add on things like a large projection screen type tv or now even led tvs that can serve the dual purpose as the large screen monitor along with adding on usb peripherals like a separate keyboard and mouse. You increase storage as well as back things up with the external HDs.

That last part can be helpful for those on tight budgets for sure while not everyone is going to be jumping crazy for using a hand held device or small screen for desktop uses. This is one reason why All-In-One type desktops appeared as the solution for space saving as well as combining everything into one rather maintaining all of the proprietary separate elements as HP, Dell, and others did in years past where only their keyboards and other replacement parts would work.

They now simply place the tower inside the monitor since everyone wants their own keyboards and mice bought elsewhere. So the hardware side is covered with much lower production costs. The OS and software side on the other hand is an anyone's game there with MS reducing the number of user features while opening the doors for more 3rd party apps being put into the OS. W7 of course being the last version suited best for user customization as far as what still came included in Windows as well as not having 3rd party ware options built in as seen on the newer versions.

As for the endless war on malwares the more involved the browser environment becomes with tv as well as music videos and other media common place on the web the malwares have to become more sophisticated since people are accustomed to paying for more web based services now then ever before. Keeping in mind that the IPhonies and not so smart phones are opening new doorways for how these newer bugs can be spread. With the addition of social networking incorporated into the limited browsers seen with these devices ransom wares are not so rare as they once were but more frequent.
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24 Dec 2014   #1046

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

I have an all-in-one myself. The reason I like it so much, the fan(s) are really quit unlike a desktop. It doesn't seem to get as dusty as tower desktops do on the inside. I also like the size of the monitor. Isn't an all-in-one desktop still considered a PC? The things I don't like about it, I think it is harder to get inside to add/remove hardware unlike a tower desktop.

Manufacture now have mini desktops as well, not just for apple any more. The prices on the pc Mini are somewhat reasonable but you would still have to buy a monitor.

Night Hawk is correct, I wouldn't like a small screen. That why I do very little texting on my cell phone and don't have a smart cell phone as well.
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24 Dec 2014   #1047
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

I run a dual monitor setup here that simply wouldn't be possible on anything too comact where the resources wouldn't be adequate enough for things like gaming and multimedia. That plus having four internal drives two being dedicate storage/backup drives plus a second split up the middle for temp OS installs with a second partition for complete system images which is the one thing that hasn't even been mentioned for a good number of pages!

Whether you have a compact model like your's, a laptop, or tower case one of the best ways of protecting your files besides the manual backups I do as I go is to have a complete system image type backup where you can restore not only the main Windows install but all of the programs you are presently running in the event the drive should need a complete wipe!
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
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24 Dec 2014   #1048

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

Night Hawk, I use Macrium Reflect a lot. My system is imaged backed up to a USB hard drive. I have restored from it as well. I just wish I knew about it sooner. I got rid of the backup that came with the Toshiba usb drive. Reflect also restores Linux partition without any issues. This below is Mini-tool partition wizard, showing how my drive is partitioned.

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24 Dec 2014   #1049
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

I use the full version of Acronis here since images are pretty well compressed down in size considering the ton of programs I run. I had consider Reflect some time back but saw a review pointing at Acronis T.I. at the time as the best of the list. Plus I caught a good sale on it back then!

Since any ssecondary OS installs on the second drive would be isolated anyways I never have any concern about what is there anyways since I can always start over from scratch either dumping another fresh temp install on or create a new system image which I will doing again here again once I finish up a project I haven't quite gotten to yet.
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29 Dec 2014   #1050

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 BIT

Bring everyone up to. Appreciate everyones help. Opened Elevated command prompt Diskpart/List Disk/Select Disk #/Clean All. In the process of running clean all one of the hard drives stopped functioning.

Re installed the O.S. thru elevated command prompt F10 and ran clean all on the drive 0 (C: drive SSD). In the process of installing software & Tuning the system. again appreciate the help. Not getting notices my OS is not original.

Checking into and trying out different A.V. programs and Firewalls prior to making a final decision. Norton Security 2015, Bitdefender Internet Security, ESET Smart Security. Night Hawk you recommended one I will try it out as well. Thanks.

A number of you recommended and thank you.

Need to find a good Back Up for the system a few recommendations appreciated.
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