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Windows 7: What's the Best Anti-virus?

10 Feb 2018   #1251
goodlad

windows 7 ultimate x32
 
 

I had used Bitdefender Free Version earlier, now for the past week or so I'm using Bitdefender Internet Solutions pack. Its good meets all my needs. After nearly 12 years, I have purchased Antivirus ironically the last paid version I used was also Bitdefender, lol !! It was on p4 pc with windows.


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4 Days Ago   #1252
edassange

W7 Home Premium x86 SP1 Build 7601
 
 

I've been a long time Panda user but some recent well publicised issues with their new Dome range led me to look for a different free AV. I tried a few and all had significant shortcomings apart from Kaspersky's new free version. If anyone's interested it now includes their premium suite's System Watcher which largely fills the previous void of the absence of a dedicated behaviour blocker. Some other new features too.

Even better is Kaspersky Security Cloud Free (you have to register though). Unlike Kaspersky Free it has configurable protection modules and a few more features:
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/ksc-free-download/23382/

There are a couple of things I don't like though. There appears to be no way of preventing installation of their VPN (Kaspersky Secure Connection) although this is quite easy to uninstall later. Also by default it occasionally advertises its other products but again this can easily be disabled in Notifications.

Other than that I'm very pleased with it.
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3 Days Ago   #1253
F22 Simpilot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I don't believe in anti-virus software since it relies on definitions in large part. I had run a software called Shadow Defender which will virtualize the entire OS so that malware can't touch you at all. If it does a simple reboot is all that is required and all is gone and back to running as before. I tested this program in VMware Player and threw a bunch of malware at it including ransomware, restarted the virtual machine and all was back to normal like nothing ever touched the machine.

The only issue with a virtualize program like Shadow Defender is that you must create several folder and/or file exclusions so that things stick. One is the recycle bin. To find its path you have to go to your folder options under the control panel and show protected files. Under the root of C drive will be $Recycle.Bin. The others will naturally be My Documents, Videos, Photos, downloads, etc, etc, etc. If you intend on updating a program or OS you need to temp disable the
virtualize program and reboot not once but twice. Then update away. If you intend on installing a program do the same thing.


Another program that might be less cumbersome and pretty much equally well suited to catch polymorphic and other malware is Faronics Anti-executable. I have also tried tossing a massive boat load of malware at it and the program asked me if I wanted to allow it to run, thus stopped it in its tracks. If you use Anti-executable, I would not set the option to scan dlls. You'll have a boat load of approval pop ups. Java is alright though.

I used to use Bitdefender Free, and while pretty decent at its detection ability, lightweight and cloud-based to help catch polymorphic malware, it intercepted debugging which is good, but not so good if you use gaming tools like I do or certain gaming hacks. Once such tool that Bitdefender will interfere with is the GenTool used for Command & Conquer. You can still play this.

Another option for malware prevention is Sandboxie. The free version will run your default browser in a sandbox environment so nothing touches your computer without recovery. The free version after 30 days will present a pop up box on browser launch letting you know that you should buy it. It's not that bad, and the security it affords is well worth the price of free. Don't click a p2p magnet link in Sandboxie otherwise the whole thing will stick in the sandbox until fully downloaded.



I have my parents computer run Sandboxie with the Pale Moon browser and Bitdefender Free. I can't use Shadow Defender because for some reason Pale Moon doesn't respond well with it. And since I can't stand the direction Firefox has gone, despise Chrome and Edge, I'm stuck with Pale Moon and Sandboxie. And I used Phoenix and the Mozilla suit years and years ago!


I personally believe OS virtualization is the future of malware prevention.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by edassange View Post
I've been a long time Panda user but some recent well publicised issues with their new Dome range led me to look for a different free AV. I tried a few and all had significant shortcomings apart from Kaspersky's new free version. If anyone's interested it now includes their premium suite's System Watcher which largely fills the previous void of the absence of a dedicated behaviour blocker. Some other new features too.

Even better is Kaspersky Security Cloud Free (you have to register though). Unlike Kaspersky Free it has configurable protection modules and a few more features:
https://www.kaspersky.com/blog/ksc-free-download/23382/

There are a couple of things I don't like though. There appears to be no way of preventing installation of their VPN (Kaspersky Secure Connection) although this is quite easy to uninstall later. Also by default it occasionally advertises its other products but again this can easily be disabled in Notifications.

Other than that I'm very pleased with it.

I wouldn't trust Russian made anti-virus products.


Kaspersky Anti-Virus Can Actually Help Spies Steal Data, Warn Researchers

What the Kaspersky Antivirus Hack Means for Consumers - Consumer Reports
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3 Days Ago   #1254
edassange

W7 Home Premium x86 SP1 Build 7601
 
 

Do you think your suggestions for an alternative to a traditional antivirus are going to appeal to your average Joe, or any Joe, for that matter? We're talking solutions here for the typical user. For most people, my advice is to stick to a conventional AV, preferably as part of a layered security approach (I also use OSArmor and VoodooShield).

Regarding Kaspersky products, I also have reservations because of where they are based, but what is mentioned in those articles is also possible to achieve for pretty much every other AV vendor because of the high level of system privileges an antivirus has.

The main cause for concern is, was Kaspersky complicit with the Russian government in spying? Until there is more to go on than ifs, maybes, could, might etc I am prepared to give Kaspersky the benefit of the doubt. If people still have any doubt though then I would advise them to avoid Kaspersky products. The following articles though lead me to believe that Kaspersky is safe to use for the home user, or rather, no more risky than other AVs:

Yes, It's Still Safe to Use Kaspersky Antivirus Software

What the Kaspersky antivirus hack really means | PCWorld

Should You Believe the Rumors About Kaspersky Lab? - PCMag UK

I have an open mind on all of this and if there are further revelations that unequivocally implicate Kaspersky in state inspired spying then clearly people should not be using their products.
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