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Windows 7: Question about UAC warnings....

22 Apr 2010   #11
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Phone Man View Post
Thank you Jim... much appreciated... But through task scheduler? Odd...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
They have it set that way so a virus cannot add itself to the whitelist.
~Lordbob
I get the idea LordBob... I just don't agree with it.

A more secure and probably more successful approach would be to log in as the administrator and set a permission switch.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
It is already a lot less intrusive than it was in Vista. I guess you skipped Vista and are not used to the UAC. I am not really bothered by it, but you are right - They should allow a list of "trusted programs" like any good AV program does - even MSE. Maybe in /8 they will come around to it.
Yep, whs, I'm aware of that much. I did skip Vista... it asked if I really wanted to do perfectly ordinary things once too often and found itself in the trashcan.

Anyway even more mysterious.... here are my two program icons this morning...

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Note that except for reading all the provided insight, I did nothing to change them... All I did last night was turn off the computer and snuggle up in bed... Yet the little shield overlay is gone this morning and both programs now run without UAC interference.

I wonder what tomorror will bring...




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22 Apr 2010   #12
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Yes CT, the elevated shortcut is the easiest solution. I have a folder for the shortcuts called AdminShortcuts and each shortcut is named admin<program>. Each one points to the task as it states in the Tut and then I put those shortcuts wherever I want. things like GPUz and CCleaner require permission, but with the shortcut, it just loads.

I have never seen the sheild-icon thing....
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22 Apr 2010   #13
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Yes CT, the elevated shortcut is the easiest solution. I have a folder for the shortcuts called AdminShortcuts and each shortcut is named admin<program>. Each one points to the task as it states in the Tut and then I put those shortcuts wherever I want. things like GPUz and CCleaner require permission, but with the shortcut, it just loads.

I have never seen the sheild-icon thing....
First time I've seen it too...

Thanks for the help everyone... maybe next time the problem will stay around long enough for me to fix it...
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22 Apr 2010   #14
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CommonTater View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
They have it set that way so a virus cannot add itself to the whitelist.
~Lordbob
I get the idea LordBob... I just don't agree with it.

A more secure and probably more successful approach would be to log in as the administrator and set a permission switch.
I agree it is not the most favourable solution from a user point of view.

There are somethings I run at startup that require a UAC prompt, and it is irritating, but ultimately harmless. I just live with it.

~Lordbob
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22 Apr 2010   #15
MSF4n

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit / Windows XP Professional 32-bit
 
 

Sorry for this off topic question, but do you really find this feature useful? I see you're sticking hard to UAC and even digging for answers - why just don't turn it off?

Because it tells you you're installing a software, just after you click on setup.exe?

Don't you think UAC is good mostly for inexperienced users?
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22 Apr 2010   #16
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSF4n View Post
Sorry for this off topic question, but do you really find this feature useful? I see you're sticking hard to UAC and even digging for answers - why just don't turn it off?

Because it tells you you're installing a software, just after you click on setup.exe?

Don't you think UAC is good mostly for unexperienced users?
It is definitely good for inexperienced users.
It is good for experienced users too.

While it can be annoying, you will always know if something other than you triggers one.

~Lordbob
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22 Apr 2010   #17
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSF4n View Post
Sorry for this off topic question, but do you really find this feature useful? I see you're sticking hard to UAC and even digging for answers - why just don't turn it off?

Because it tells you you're installing a software, just after you click on setup.exe?

Don't you think UAC is good mostly for unexperienced users?
It is definitely good for inexperienced users.
It is good for experienced users too.

While it can be annoying, you will always know if something other than you triggers one.

~Lordbob
+1 the danger with UAC is you tend to become complacent, or i do anyway, UAC flashed up for something not initiated by me the other day, and i automatically clicked yes, cue "Oh S**T S**T S**T what was that?" luckily for me, it was just a java update, but still, a cautionary tale, remember to check what its asking you for.
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22 Apr 2010   #18
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MSF4n View Post
Sorry for this off topic question, but do you really find this feature useful? I see you're sticking hard to UAC and even digging for answers - why just don't turn it off?

Because it tells you you're installing a software, just after you click on setup.exe?

Don't you think UAC is good mostly for inexperienced users?
Can't speak for the others... but in my case I am developing a couple of software packages and need the UAC running for testing it. It's no fun if you're working across a network and the UAC pops up on a machine you can't even see....
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22 Apr 2010   #19
CommonTater

XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
 
 
Incredible....

Go out for supper... come home fire up the computer and...

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They're baaaaaack....



Here's the error message I'm getting....

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The program is digitally signed.

WTF is going on????


EDIT:
This is interesting...

User Account Control


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23 Apr 2010   #20
iron2000

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Does the programs write stuff (maybe settings to some ini..etc) to protected areas (program files, windows folder, non-user areas)?

Don't really know UAC well enough but to me I think its to control changes in system areas.


OT:
Just re-enabled UAC yesterday, trying to get used to it.
So UAC even nag about deleting stuff in an external HDD!
Fixed it by giving "Everyone" full access.
Had to move my ChromePlus portable folder from Program Files cause of access rights.
Editing winapp2.ini needs an elevated notepad.

Being restricted is challenging :P
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