Question about UAC warnings....

iron2000 said:

Does the programs write stuff (maybe settings to some ini..etc) to protected areas (program files, windows folder, non-user areas)?

Don't really know UAC well enough but to me I think its to control changes in system areas.

Actually yes...

The email program sets up a default mail directory in it's own folder under Program Files... win98 style. I always move that over to a space on my D: drive that gets backed up every couple of days... So, reading the article I linked to, I tried deleting the empty mail folder... now it won't run at all. Re-creating the folder does get it going again, but the warnings are back.

Pelles C is an ANSI-C language compiler and Source Code editor. During compile it has to access windows headers and libraries from it's own folders in Program Files... I can move them but given the fate of my other program...

If I turn UAC off the only way I can run either program is to run them as Administrator.

If I boot to XP, both work perfectly with no hesitation at all (and have for several years).

So....Once again I find myself seriously losing patience with this operating system...

Thorsen said:

Are the actual programs on the desktop or just shortcuts. It might be that they are loading into memory on startup and needing sigs just to be put into memory.

If they are, put them in a folder not on the desktop and see if that keeps them from prompting.
If they are shortcuts then Im baffled.

They're shortcuts.
Neither loads on startup.
Neither uses services or tray tasks.

You're baffled... you should be here...

These are totally safe programs but in order to use them I have to totally defeat my system's security...

Thorsen said:

Did you try the elevated shortcut thing through taskmanager? Its real easy....

Mainly my tips would be to name the new task the same as the program but add admin to the front. And to create a folder to hold the shortcuts. and name the shortcut the same as the taskname.....

I've now tried all the suggestions given... same result... one startup shields, next one not... but it's not even predictable it might be one way three times then flip...

I finally gave up and disabled the System Security service. The programs work fine so I'm not worried about security... but at least now they actually run.

Maybe you can try to install/move those programs elsewhere, perhaps to C:/User/username/AppData/Roaming
There the programs can change stuff in its own folder without admin privileges.
(I think thats the place where programmers should program their applications to place the settings at. Well, the new practice with UAC in the scene.)

iron2000 said:

Maybe you can try to install/move those programs elsewhere, perhaps to C:/User/username/AppData/Roaming
There the programs can change stuff in its own folder without admin privileges.
(I think thats the place where programmers should program their applications to place the settings at. Well, the new practice with UAC in the scene.)

Actually settings should be in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER.

Portable aps that use INI files can write to Roaming or the drive/device where the portable ap is to be housed.

Hmm, i don't think UAC govern writing settings to registry as Media Player Classic HC seems to write settings to registry ok even with standard user privilege, its only when I try to write the settings to an ini file then it can't do as it isn't run as admin.
(Running it as admin or moving it out of Program Files made creating the ini file possible.)