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Windows 7: Can you recomend free HIPS software?

19 Jun 2010   #11
RoloDman

7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
no, not right now.
im using an old PC with a P4 2.4GHz CPU myself, so i have not had any need to look for 64-bit firewalls (yet).

but im going to build a new PC, i already have 2 64-bit CPUs, 1 Intel & 1 AMD.
i bought them cheap, but have not been able to decide if i want intel or AMD.
now i have finally decided to use AMD, as it offers higher FSBs.
so im going to buy a new motherboard next week.
so maybe i should start looking for 64bit-compatible firewalls...
So basically there is no such thing as just HIPS program? It always has to come with some type of firewall and extras software?

I really just want HIPS to compliment my Windows firewall.


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19 Jun 2010   #12
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

AFAIK, firewalls has HIPS.
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19 Jun 2010   #13
malexous

Arch Linux 64-bit
 
 

No HIPS only for 64-bit, just 32-bit.
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19 Jun 2010   #14
hackerman1

W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
 
 

hi !

RoloDman: take a look at: Outpost Security from Agnitum: Firewall | Internet Security | AntiVirus | Network Security
their firewall is compatible with W7-64.
although not free, they offer a lifetime-license for 50 USD.
ive used Outpost previously, it had a userfriendly interface and was easy to configure.
it has also performed very well in fx. Matousecs tests previously, but it looks like their latest version has not been tested with the new "148-test":
Results and comments - www.matousec.com
it also performed well in my own tests.
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19 Jun 2010   #15
RoloDman

7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hackerman1 View Post
hi !

RoloDman: take a look at: Outpost Security from Agnitum: Firewall | Internet Security | AntiVirus | Network Security
their firewall is compatible with W7-64.
although not free, they offer a lifetime-license for 50 USD.
ive used Outpost previously, it had a userfriendly interface and was easy to configure.
it has also performed very well in fx. Matousecs tests previously, but it looks like their latest version has not been tested with the new "148-test":
Results and comments - www.matousec.com
it also performed well in my own tests.
I am not hearing good thing about Matousecs credibility
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19 Jun 2010   #16
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

RoloDman, if I may ask... Why do you need a stand alone HIPS product for a client OS?

zzz2496
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19 Jun 2010   #17
RoloDman

7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
RoloDman, if I may ask... Why do you need a stand alone HIPS product for a client OS?

zzz2496
I really don't know

I liked how HIPS worked with Comodo but I don't want the Firewall and tha entire program if I am going to disable most of it just to use HIPS.

I guess I don't really need it at all

I just liked having it


Currently my security is:

Windows firewall
MSE

On-demand scanners: Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, SpywareBlaster,A-Squared (Emsisoft free) and HitMan Pro 3.5
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19 Jun 2010   #18
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoloDman View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
RoloDman, if I may ask... Why do you need a stand alone HIPS product for a client OS?

zzz2496
I really don't know

I liked how HIPS worked with Comodo but I don't want the Firewall and tha entire program if I am going to disable most of it just to use HIPS.

I guess I don't really need it at all

I just liked having it


Currently my security is:

Windows firewall
MSE
On-demand: Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, SpywareBlaster,A-Squared (Emsisoft free) and HitMan Pro 3.5
Ahh... I see. Here's what I know about these kind of things... In internetwork world, there's a subsystem for detecting and preventing intrusion. These are Intrusion Detection System and Intrusion Prevention System (IDS/IPS). The idea is, you need to detect something in order to prevent it from intruding. Some of these systems have several detection methods i.e. behavioral analyzer, rule based, or maybe both. It doesn't block/flag something as intruder without proper checking, and it doesn't check everything blindly either...

HIPS on the other hand is Heuristic Intrusion Prevention System, it's a blind, brute-force-super-checker, it checks literally everything as it happens in a system. IMHO, these kind of systems are at best can be categorized as "stupid" or "blatantly idiot", resource hogger, and overall ineffective. Combine a HIPS with a novice users that always agrees/OK-ed to everything he/she sees, you got your self a non functional HIPS system...

Your current "defense" system is OK, I don't think you need HIPS to complete the list. IMHO, I suggest you add "common sense" to complete the list instead of HIPS...

zzz2496
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19 Jun 2010   #19
RoloDman

7 Ultimate 64 bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RoloDman View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
RoloDman, if I may ask... Why do you need a stand alone HIPS product for a client OS?

zzz2496
I really don't know

I liked how HIPS worked with Comodo but I don't want the Firewall and tha entire program if I am going to disable most of it just to use HIPS.

I guess I don't really need it at all

I just liked having it


Currently my security is:

Windows firewall
MSE
On-demand: Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware, SpywareBlaster,A-Squared (Emsisoft free) and HitMan Pro 3.5
Ahh... I see. Here's what I know about these kind of things... In internetwork world, there's a subsystem for detecting and preventing intrusion. These are Intrusion Detection System and Intrusion Prevention System (IDS/IPS). The idea is, you need to detect something in order to prevent it from intruding. Some of these systems have several detection methods i.e. behavioral analyzer, rule based, or maybe both. It doesn't block/flag something as intruder without proper checking, and it doesn't check everything blindly either...

HIPS on the other hand is Heuristic Intrusion Prevention System, it's a blind, brute-force-super-checker, it checks literally everything as it happens in a system. IMHO, these kind of systems are at best can be categorized as "stupid" or "blatantly idiot", resource hogger, and overall ineffective. Combine a HIPS with a novice users that always agrees/OK-ed to everything he/she sees, you got your self a non functional HIPS system...

Your current "defense" system is OK, I don't think you need HIPS to complete the list. IMHO, I suggest you add "common sense" to complete the list instead of HIPS...

zzz2496

Well I have common sense

I use virustotatal and Jotti's when I download a new file. I also do research on anything I install.

When you say my setup is "ok", do you mean it's good but nothing special? Can you recommend anything else I should do?
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19 Jun 2010   #20
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

It's good, good enough for normal users. If you want to increase your security, I suggest you practice "safe computing", that is using a limited user account for day to day use, have hardware firewall in place, enabled software firewall (windows's will do), have an anti virus/anti malware installed, and don't plug flashdisk that is suspected to have some bad payload. If you're paranoid, have another box running Linux/UNIX, and plug/copy/download anything you want in there, scan the payload there, once you're sure that the payload is safe, copy it to your PC... Other than that, yours is OK...

zzz2496

Ps. MSE is good enough for normal users...
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