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Windows 7: Avira just killed everything!

27 Jun 2010   #11
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

I haven't seen anything elsewhere, including the Avira Support Forum, about a false/positive in Avira. Are you sure it wasn't one of the three rogues of a similar name, Antivir, Antivir 2010, or Antivir Antivirus? There are other rogues that include include rootkit components, block A/V, Windows Update, System Restore, Safe Mode, Task Manager, and more.


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27 Jun 2010   #12
Bill2

Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
 
 

Do you remember the update number and other details? There may be many members and visitors using Avira and it'll help them to be aware something like this happen. Plus somebody may reasearch into this issue, in case there are some rogue updates floating around, as Corrine suggested. If there is an Avira expert on these forums, some more light can be shed, maybe the matter can be reported to the Avira makers.
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28 Jun 2010   #13
pacman10

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigseb View Post
Did an update on my Avira Antivirus and it killed everything. None of my software works and even the OS is stuffed.

Any ideas on how to fix this before I re-install the whole lot?
You could simply restore the contents of the hard disk from your last image backup. Very easy to do. All that will be missing is the data between today and your last image backup but assuming you do regular and frequent backups that should be manageable.
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28 Jun 2010   #14
madtownidiot

 

Another reason I don't use an AV on my own computers. Something like that happening at the wrong time could cost me a fair chunk of cash. Better just to reimage my system on my own time whenever it shows signs of slowing down
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28 Jun 2010   #15
pacman10

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Another reason I don't use an AV on my own computers. Something like that happening at the wrong time could cost me a fair chunk of cash. Better just to reimage my system on my own time whenever it shows signs of slowing down
If your system is business-critical then running without AV and frequent image backups is an excellent way to waste time and money. It's like transcendental bungee jumping. You experience total freedom and it is fatal.

Oh, and you and BigSeb might like to look at http://www.articlesbase.com/security...e-1990841.html If these reports are correct then the problem is not with an AV product but with malware masquerading as AV.
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28 Jun 2010   #16
madtownidiot

 

lol... interesting way to put it. I keep all my personal files on a separate partition, with a backup of those on an external hdd. The image backups are a life saver. I just go right back to about 5 hours after windows was installed, once every 2 weeks at most, and I get a system that does a full restart in 20-23 seconds and never slows down, nor do I lose any progress.
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28 Jun 2010   #17
pacman10

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
lol... interesting way to put it. I keep all my personal files on a separate partition, with a backup of those on an external hdd. The image backups are a life saver. I just go right back to about 5 hours after windows was installed, once every 2 weeks at most, and I get a system that does a full restart in 20-23 seconds and never slows down, nor do I lose any progress.
If I have understood this system correctly then it is vulnerable to malware because each time you restore the image of the original Windows 7 system you overwrite any Windows 7 security updates which have taken place in the meantime.
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28 Jun 2010   #18
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pacman10 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
lol... interesting way to put it. I keep all my personal files on a separate partition, with a backup of those on an external hdd. The image backups are a life saver. I just go right back to about 5 hours after windows was installed, once every 2 weeks at most, and I get a system that does a full restart in 20-23 seconds and never slows down, nor do I lose any progress.
If I have understood this system correctly then it is vulnerable to malware because each time you restore the image of the original Windows 7 system you overwrite any Windows 7 security updates which have taken place in the meantime.
No more vulnerable than a system with a fresh install of windows that hasn't been updated yet. Even less, because the image contains a working copy of the comodo firewall and some of the updates. If malware can get in via windows update, (malware other than some of the windows updates anyway) we're all screwed regardless.
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28 Jun 2010   #19
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

I use Avira Premium Security Suite, I can't imagine that it would wipe out a system .... something went berserk
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28 Jun 2010   #20
madtownidiot

 

It may be that corrine has a point too.. either way, those rouge AV programs out there are so difficult to get rid of it's easier and quicker to reinstall windows than to try to remove one.
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