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Windows 7: Which is the best?

23 Jul 2010   #31
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

I still can't believe Norton is getting this much BUZZ, go away with the Norton, I wouldn't use it unless you PAID ME!
In summary:
Pick from many other choices and use a layered approach and tweak your system for better performance while you are at it.
Your mileage will vary.



I have no idea what whs is talking about in his tiny reply below.
Norton has sucked for a long time, this isn't just my random opinion. *cough*
Facts? lol


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23 Jul 2010   #32
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
I still can't believe Norton is getting this much BUZZ, go away with the Norton, I wouldn't use it unless you PAID ME!
In summary:
Pick from many other choices and use a layered approach and tweak your system for better performance while you are at it.
Your mileage will vary.
See, here is the difference. We have facts, you have an opinion.
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23 Jul 2010   #33
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

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I use Avast and Avira as an on demand scanner. I have layers of protection. Tried to download the trojan simulator, and even disabling each program as it detected it, I never was allowed to download it, lol. If it gets past the front line, it gets tackled by the back line

Trojan Simulator

A Guy
Have a look at the attached image on even that saw an immediate alert when going to download the zip file. You wouldn't see that come up with numerous programs in addition to the MS SE unless you have an effective firewall inplace.

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Used both, had better results from Norton.

My experience:
Norton IS (had about 2 years/2 versions) = no viruses, no malware trouble
MSE (temporary usage) = got several viruses that trashed 7

Niether are memory hogs - or bloated. Norton that was out 3+ years ago was bloated & inefficient, but the software has been rewritten.
I had a similar experience. MSE is not watertight.
Far from watertight would be a better definition. But the W.Defender and other MS removers over the last several years have also sadly lacked.

Norton definitely needed to see some vast improvements in that area by Symantec having tried the System Works out several years back and said no way!

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Used both, had better results from Norton.

My experience:
Norton IS (had about 2 years/2 versions) = no viruses, no malware trouble
MSE (temporary usage) = got several viruses that trashed 7

Niether are memory hogs - or bloated. Norton that was out 3+ years ago was bloated & inefficient, but the software has been rewritten.
I had a similar experience. MSE is not watertight.
Which is the prime reason to approach security in a layered approach .... no one app will catch it all ...
That sums things up nicely! These malware writers always manage to find loop holes and other ways to get thing past the better known more popular softwares as well as the ones MS releases from time to time.

For the av program here with a 2yr. license I'll run that primarily while still adding a little something onto IE for assisting in filtering out crap sites. The firewall blocked one side track site offering cashback on purchases when going to pay for the full version of one software.

When taking a look at what was being blocked the site wanted you to sign up and pay a $25 monthly fee! to supposedly? take advantage of getting cah back on purchases?! SCAM is the word and why good site filtering is even more important. If you can avoid the crud sites and emails with viruses attached you won't be running into the high risk factors to start with.


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23 Jul 2010   #34
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

MSE has caught a couple things on mine that the paid for version hasn't.

It integrates with the system nicely and uses a small amount of resources.

I trust it more then the McAfee that came with the system.
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23 Jul 2010   #35
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I wouldn't even allow McAfee on any system here due to past experience. no thanks!

That one gets a dump review across the board by most people you talk with anyways. The MS SE on the other hand is like the minimum protection requirement you see when first setting up any Windows installation. For not having anything at all or the free protection from MS which way would you go?

For the novice user or someone simply on a tight budget running out to buy full version softwares may be out of range where MS is finally looking into what the typical user needs since they are trying to become more customer satisfaction orientated over just being another commercial customer base only type.
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23 Jul 2010   #36
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

McAfee has only caused me problems. In addition to letting a multitude of viruses on my computer when I had XP and my dads, just the other day my mom got a new Dell with McAfee installed. After turning it on, I could no longer print from my computer. Yes, MucAfail on one computer started screwing with others. Turns out its poorly programed firewall causes network problems between computers and other network devices. As soon as I disabled McAfee, all my problems went away. I installed MSE on the computer and everything has been fine since.
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23 Jul 2010   #37
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The SE won't intrude on anything since it starts off by not having a firewall for those who leave the Windows firewall option enabled. For any firewall you generally to set up the exceptions whenever any problems are seen since you could run into the same with other softwares as well.

The failing with McAfee are as you say are with the serious lack of protection the software itself has to offer which is too often next to none. But they get in with the pc manufacturers to keep their sales going as part of the prepackaged software bundles with trial versions preinstalled or offered.
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23 Jul 2010   #38
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

Actually, what she had was not even a trial version, but a fully licensed copy that was good for 15 months. All it took to activate was a name and an email address. They offer deals with OEMs, ISPs, and schools to get people using their software for little or no cost in hopes that people will start paying when the first subscription runs out.
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23 Jul 2010   #39
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

That would be called "sales incentives" for the most by getting people to use their stuff already prebundled onto any new system someone goes out and buys. You see this with a list of other programs as well depending on what arrangements have been made between software companies and whichever pc manufacturer is involved.
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24 Jul 2010   #40
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

You will always find people who are happy with xxx brand AV, if it works for you great. Assuming you would know if you had a virus, if you have never had one, then indeed it has worked for you. I've never felt a reason to switch from Avast yet, so I use it. I believe I would go to Avira if I did, but MSE would be on the short list. I think we all agree that a layered approach, with recent known good images, along with common sense (and many will add a sandbox program) is the best plan. Beyond that, unless picking programs that test poorly, you can mix and match what works for you. A Guy
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