32bit better then 64?

[Jonathan_King]

I happen to have both - 32bit and 64bit Windows7. In my book the 32bit is to be preferred with up to 4GB of RAM. The 64bit gives me nothing but problems whilst the 32bit is smooth sailing since RTM was released. The problem is that all preinstalled systems seem to be 64bit these days. I needed a new laptop and there was no way to find a decent system with 32bit. I will not touch 64bit again until they have done their homework and buy a 32bir OEM license to replace the 64bit system on my 4GB laptop. 64bit reminds me the early days of Vista.

I couldn't agree more...

A 10 year client called a few weeks ago and needed a new laptop. They insisted on Win 7 and wanted it today. I went to my local Staples and picked up a new Dell running X64. I’m not a Dell fan but had limited choices. Since then, it’s been nothing but GRIEF!

Constant lockups, ongoing BSOF’s, extremely slow, and a constant pain in the A$$! Since the release of this product, which is only 2 months, Dell has 2 bios updates, updates for all loaded applications, and has not been able to resolve the issues.

I would guess that if it was running 32bit instead of 64 this would not be a problem. As I continually monitor these kind of post I don’t understand why MS hasn’t addressed the clear issues that exist with x64…

That doesn't necessarily suggest a 64-bit problem, but if you upload the dmps, we could take a look for you.

 

[helmutcheese]

The truth is x64 uses more resources, and has a lot more problems, especially driver issues.

Unless I have 4GB or more of RAM, I install the 32-bit version. I don't see any sense risking BSODs, using more resources, and having the few incompatible programs when I only have 2GB.

Driver issues ?

You mean years ago right ?

32bit is a dinosaur and a total waste of modern hardware (not just memory).

That outlook is exactly why many are still running XP 32bit and will never move forward.

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
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Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

 

[zigzag3143]

Driver issues ?

You mean years ago right ?

32bit is a dinosaur and a total waste of modern hardware (not just memory).

That outlook is exactly why many are still running XP 32bit and will never move forward.

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
\

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

And your sources are?

 

[whs]

Driver issues ?

You mean years ago right ?

32bit is a dinosaur and a total waste of modern hardware (not just memory).

That outlook is exactly why many are still running XP 32bit and will never move forward.

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
\

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

Give me some data that contradicts my own experience. Anybody can have an opinion, but I am running both 32 and 64bit and can compare.

 

[neo101]

I happen to have both - 32bit and 64bit Windows7. In my book the 32bit is to be preferred with up to 4GB of RAM. The 64bit gives me nothing but problems whilst the 32bit is smooth sailing since RTM was released. The problem is that all preinstalled systems seem to be 64bit these days. I needed a new laptop and there was no way to find a decent system with 32bit. I will not touch 64bit again until they have done their homework and buy a 32bir OEM license to replace the 64bit system on my 4GB laptop. 64bit reminds me the early days of Vista.

I couldn't agree more...

A 10 year client called a few weeks ago and needed a new laptop. They insisted on Win 7 and wanted it today. I went to my local Staples and picked up a new Dell running X64. I’m not a Dell fan but had limited choices. Since then, it’s been nothing but GRIEF!

Constant lockups, ongoing BSOF’s, extremely slow, and a constant pain in the A$$! Since the release of this product, which is only 2 months, Dell has 2 bios updates, updates for all loaded applications, and has not been able to resolve the issues.

I would guess that if it was running 32bit instead of 64 this would not be a problem. As I continually monitor these kind of post I don’t understand why MS hasn’t addressed the clear issues that exist with x64…

Havva larf at all the 64bit failures on 'ere
It isn't quite there yet!

64bit and x64 - Office 2007 64 bit edition?

 

[helmutcheese]

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
\

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

And your sources are?

Any good source, advise you learn to Google for them and educate yourself.

2 seconds on Google and 1st result :

The Factor's that make Windows Vista 64 bit more stable..........

1. Greater stability - Windows Vista 64-bit requires that all device drivers be signed.
2. Access to more than 3.25 GB of RAM - if your computer has 4 GB of memory, you will be able to use all of it instead of being limited by the 32-bit memory addressing system.
3. Performance - running a 64-bit operating system on a 64-bit processor offers better performance than a 32-bit operating system could provide.
4. Backwards compatibility - most 32-bit applications work without an issue on 64-bit Windows, with the exception of Anti-Virus programs and some other system utilities that rely on drivers.

Really got to laugh at some of the complete rubbish I read about on the web esp from XP users stuck in the stoneage.

 

[helmutcheese]

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
\

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

Give me some data that contradicts my own experience. Anybody can have an opinion, but I am running both 32 and 64bit and can compare.

Give me infomation that proves 64bit is less stable than 32bit !

 

[zigzag3143]

yes driver issues, not years ago but now.

32bit is a dinosaur but were it not for an asteroid dinosaurs would still rule.

And just as many will stay on 64 bit when the next latest agreateset comes out in 128 bit

This is a discussion every has an opinion on and it probably wont die
\

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

Give me some data that contradicts my own experience. Anybody can have an opinion, but I am running both 32 and 64bit and can compare.

You pro-ported that 64 bit is more stable as fact. It is your opinion and of course you and any one else is entitled to that. If you wish to say something is fact you probably should have some facts (not experience, for every one's experience is different) to support it.

BTW, as someone who debugs crashes (more than 2000 to date) where more than 75% of them are 64bit my opinion is that if anything it is less stable.

Lets just agree to dis-agree

Ken

 

[Thorsen]

I would like to know though factually if 64 is more stable than 32. If you do have a source for this statement please post it.

Thanks in advance, Thorsen

Edit: re-read post sorry.

 

[pparks1]

I would like to know though factually if 64 is more stable than 32. If you do have a source for this statement please post it..

I don't think there is any hard and solid proof. The ability to use it successfully will depend very much on the hardware you use and the versions of the drivers that you use.

My experience doesn't lead me to believe that 32 or 64 bit is inherently more stable. On the other hand, my experience does lead me to believe there are fewer compatibility issues with 32-bit over 64-bit.

My opinion is that without 4GB of RAM or more...just stick with 32-bit for the time being.

 

[CommonTater]

My experience doesn't lead me to believe that 32 or 64 bit is inherently more stable. On the other hand, my experience does lead me to believe there are fewer compatibility issues with 32-bit over 64-bit.

They should be equally stable --all else being equal-- since they both run in 64bit CPUs with 64 bit registers. That is to say the 32bit code runs in the same space as the 64bit... it's not like the CPU has 2 different modes or that it's got some kind of switch inside... It's all running in the exact same hardware. 32bit software just doesn't use 64bit instructions. If there is a difference in stability it's going to be in software and most likely in the drivers.

Still this is always an interesting debate.... I do hop you don't mind me jumping in with my opinion.

 

[zigzag3143]

Not at all the more the merrier. Every one is entitled to their own opinion

 

[whs]

I would like to know though factually if 64 is more stable than 32. If you do have a source for this statement please post it..

I don't think there is any hard and solid proof. The ability to use it successfully will depend very much on the hardware you use and the versions of the drivers that you use.

My experience doesn't lead me to believe that 32 or 64 bit is inherently more stable. On the other hand, my experience does lead me to believe there are fewer compatibility issues with 32-bit over 64-bit.

My opinion is that without 4GB of RAM or more...just stick with 32-bit for the time being.

+1, I think this is a good compromise position to take. Fortunately we have choices (except when you want to buy a new preinstalled system which seem to be all x64), so to each his own.

 

[neo101]

Who said they were not entitled to their opinions ?

Most peeps are like Sheep though and follow others who spread totally false BS about something.

The FACT remains 64bit IS more stable than 32bit.

Give me some data that contradicts my own experience. Anybody can have an opinion, but I am running both 32 and 64bit and can compare.

Give me infomation that proves 64bit is less stable than 32bit !

Are YOU blind - I pointed you to a 64bit site which exposes that it is not fully ready for the working/business world!

"Microsoft is advising its customers to install the 32-bit, rather than the 64-bit, version of Office 2010.
The advice is tucked away in an FAQ about the Office 2010 Tech Guarantee programme, which will ensure that buyers of Office 2007 will get a free upgrade to the new Office suite when its launched."

Stone age - WORKS!

 

[helmutcheese]

Office is hardly an app that needs be 64bit and has not been 64bit as long as the OS has.

This topic is about Windows AFAICS.

So NO I AINT blind.

Go back to your cave !

Again how me proof (not your unimpoprtnat BS) that 64bit Vista or Win 7 are less stable than 32bit Vista or Win 7 !

 

[zigzag3143]

Office is hardly an app that needs be 64bit and has not been 64bit as long as the OS has.

This topic is about Windows AFAICS.

So NO I AINT blind.

Go back to your cave !

Again how me proof (not your unimpoprtnat BS) that 64bit Vista or Win 7 are less stable than 32bit Vista or Win 7 !

Now Now. PLAY NICE. just remember the forums rules.

 

[whs]

I think the topic is getting out of hand and everyone will camp on their positions anyhow. There is nothing more to be learned. The OP will have enough input reading thru the thread.

 

[Product FRED]

Like I said before, for consumer use, x64 is the new x86. For business use, x86 is still the way to go, unless maybe you're running servers. No one mentioned the fact that virtualization on a server is the one of the most cost-effective business strategies you can employ. You can virtualize x86 software on an x64 platform. Hence, we have XP Mode, for example.