advice for new pc

[soulfood]

HI, i wonder if someone could give some advice and feedback on a new computer i'm having built for me. here are the specs:
VGA-asus GTX760 OC 2G 2GD5
CPU-Intel core i7 3770 3.4 Ghz 8MB cache socket 1155
Motherboard- asus P8Z77-V 1155 4DD3 ATX
RAM-Kingston 8GB kit hyperX 1600Mhz (2x4GB)
CASE- Corsair carbide 400r
Hard drive *1- ssd samsung 840 pro 256GB MZ-7PD
Hard drive *2 - western digital 1TB caviar black 64MB
Power supply- antec high current gamer 750W modular
DVD-rom- pioneer DVR-sata ?
2x fans 140mm for top of case
2x fans 120mm for side of case

i am going to use this computer for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop, gaming, etc
any advice would be great, thank you

 

[paulpicks21]

It looks very good, the only thing I will say is I assume you are not interested in overclocking the cpu? As if you are then the cpu you want is the 3770K not the non K like you have listed.

Apart from that query it looks great.

Paul

 

[Boozad]

If you're going to be doing a lot of rendering and animation you'd benefit from 16GB of RAM.

 

[kbrady1979]

I agree with the above info. Core I7-3770K for the unlocked multiplier and it's just a few dollars more, and 16GB of RAM. You may find out you run out of RAM if you only have 8GB and you are editing/rendering etc. Also, I wouldn't buy any fans for the side of the case....I've never seen a case that needed them, and I've never seen fans on the side panel that didn't turn out to be a pain in the ass. Normal cases have an air channel that runs from the front panel, through the middle of the case and up/out the top/rear of the case. I think fans on the side panel just disrupt that flow and do more harm than good.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
Agreed with previous poster.

Make sure though that the memory has plenty of airspace around it - especially if it's that type fitted with extra heat sinks -- also if you use a separate GPU these can run extremely hot so make sure adequate cooling for those.

The CPU will have a decent heat sink and fan anyway -- ensure the fan works of course. !!

I'd suggest also you can save a bit of money by using the STANDARD SAMSUNG 840 SSD rather than the PRO one. The performance is almost exactly the same -- I doubt whether you would even notice the difference. The PRO model tends to be used in places like servers but for home use I'll think you will find the SAMSUNG 840 (standard) more than sufficient and these can be had quite cheaply. Use the savings to buy another 8GB RAM so you've got 16GB in the machine.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Boozad]

Also, if you are going to overclock the CPU be sure to fit a good water cooler, the Corsair H100i for example. There may also be benefits in installing 2400MHz RAM to with an overclocked CPU, the HyperX Beast for example.

 

[AddRAM]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2373004&csid=_61

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2372989&CatId=1969

 

[paulpicks21]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

Intel Core i5-3570K BX80637i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail at TigerDirect.com

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K) at TigerDirect.com

Hiya mate, he says he will be using it for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop as well as gaming.
Would an i7 not be better in this situation?

 

[jimbo45]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

Intel Core i5-3570K BX80637i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail at TigerDirect.com

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K) at TigerDirect.com

Hiya mate, he says he will be using it for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop as well as gaming.
Would an i7 not be better in this situation?

Hi there
For Photoshop you need if you are doing a lot of layers a LOT of disk scratch space -- the difference between using an i5 and i7 is negligible -- and the money you save can be used in buying an SSD -- this would make the OS fly (even with an i3 believe it or not).

An i7 is vastly overkill for 99.9% of home users - even extreme gamers. Get your RAM and DISK configurations correct before worrying about what processor to use. I'll bet even a relatively low level i3 fitted in a decent MOBO with 8 - 16 GB RAM but with one or even TWO SSD's will probably OUT PERFORM an i7 system with bog standard HDD spinners - especially of the cheaper consumer grade ones.

i5 is better also for less heat and power -- if you NEED the processing power of an i7 go for it but really ask what you are doing as I'm sure you don't really need that --especially if you have a separate GPU for your video / gaming needs.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[paulpicks21]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

Intel Core i5-3570K BX80637i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail at TigerDirect.com

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K) at TigerDirect.com

Hiya mate, he says he will be using it for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop as well as gaming.
Would an i7 not be better in this situation?

Hi there
For Photoshop you need if you are doing a lot of layers a LOT of disk scratch space -- the difference between using an i5 and i7 is negligible -- and the money you save can be used in buying an SSD -- this would make the OS fly (even with an i3 believe it or not).

An i7 is vastly overkill for 99.9% of home users - even extreme gamers. Get your RAM and DISK configurations correct before worrying about what processor to use. I'll bet even a relatively low level i3 fitted in a decent MOBO with 8 - 16 GB RAM but with one or even TWO SSD's will probably OUT PERFORM an i7 system with bog standard HDD spinners - especially of the cheaper consumer grade ones.

i5 is better also for less heat and power -- if you NEED the processing power of an i7 go for it but really ask what you are doing as I'm sure you don't really need that --especially if you have a separate GPU for your video / gaming needs.

Cheers
jimbo

Fair enough Jimbo, but he already has an SSD in his list so I guess he doesn't need to save the money towards that.

Paul.

 

[AddRAM]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

Intel Core i5-3570K BX80637i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail at TigerDirect.com

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K) at TigerDirect.com

Hiya mate, he says he will be using it for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop as well as gaming.
Would an i7 not be better in this situation?

I really don`t think it would make a difference, the i5 3570k is that good.

Compare the chips yourself.

 

[paulpicks21]

Save some money by getting a 3570k ( the thing rocks ) and put it towards memory, 16 GBs total.

Intel Core i5-3570K BX80637i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail at TigerDirect.com

But, if you have the cash, then definitely grab the 3770k.

Intel Core i7-3770K Processor - Quad Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 3.50GHz (3.90GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 77W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail (BX80667i73770K) at TigerDirect.com

Hiya mate, he says he will be using it for 3D rendering, animation, photoshop as well as gaming.
Would an i7 not be better in this situation?

I really don`t think it would make a difference, the i5 3570k is that good.

Compare the chips yourself.

So I just spent the last 20 mins looking into this, I did a search on google "i5 3570k vs i7 3770k for 3d rendering"

In every result there were people talking about them on forums and reviews, and they all said the same, for gaming the i5 3570k hands down, but if you are planning on doing a lot of 3d rendering then the extra money for the i7 is worth it as it can save you time.

I don't really care myself as I don't do any 3d rendering, but you asked me to compare them myself so I did.

Paul.

 

[kbrady1979]

If you are doing anything that relies on more than 4 cores.......photoshop, sony vegas, etc, you need the 3770K or better. That's what Hyperthreading was made for. Most people that do editing/rendering go for the six core Intel processors if they can afford it for a good reason: 6 cores and 12 threads is a monster CPU!

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Agree with many of the statements posted. Go with the 3770k, get the fastest 16gb of ram and I would look towards 2 sticks of 8gb and that leaves you an option later to get to 32gb and other creative things.
Then cooling....you can never have enough capacity so a good sealed water cooler or a great after market air cooler like a Noctua will pay for itself.
This brings me to case fans and spending a bit more now and getting a cool and quiet case by upgrading the cheap fans that come with cases or at the very least speed controlling them. If background ambient noise is not an issue then disregard if you like.
Lastly for me the PSU is critical and I'm sure the Antec is good but Seasonic is better and it's one area that people will often sell themselves short.

Please post you finished rig in our "Show us your Rig" section as it will be handsome and a kick ass rig!

 

[Boozad]

This brings me to case fans and spending a bit more now and getting a cool and quiet case by upgrading the cheap fans that come with cases or at the very least speed controlling them. If background ambient noise is not an issue then disregard if you like.

I'd highly recommend the Cooler Master Silencio 650 for a quiet case. Even under gaming load I can barely hear my rig, even with an aftermarket air cooler, extra case fans and GTX 780 running hard. It keeps temperatures at a very acceptable level too.

Lastly for me the PSU is critical and I'm sure the Antec is good but Seasonic is better and it's one area that people will often sell themselves short.

Indeed. Another component I'd be happy to recommend is the Corsair HX Gold Modular series. I have the HX850-80 and it's a great PSU, very quiet to compliment the case, efficient and of course allows for better cable management which ultimately helps with airflow.

 

[soulfood]

what is a best (or a really good one) power supply (wattage) for me? some say 700W, 650W, 850W, 1000W,

 

[kbrady1979]

what is a best (or a really good one) power supply (wattage) for me? some say 700W, 650W, 850W, 1000W,

Recap what parts you are going to use. You don't have to link any of the parts, just what they are.

Cpu, Motherboard, Ram, Video Card, etc.

 

[3Colors]

I also include in this issue (although I have like 5 months with my new pc), which drivers are needed in addition to the basic install coming from the cd ? Now I see that there are drivers for motherboard, sound, network ... etc., in the manufacturer's website.

Sorry for the intrusion