All Major Browsers Fall at Pwn2Own Day 2

May have to check it out sure can't use chrome it uses a hell of allot of resources to work
Thanks :)
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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1920 x 1080 144Hz
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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Ymmv

May have to check it out sure can't use chrome it uses a hell of allot of resources to work
Thanks :)
I dislike Chrome's GUI and the fact it is from Google.

Pale Moon also supports most FF add-ons including (importantly) NoScript.

Other FF variants include Waterfox and Cyberfox.

If you only normally have a few tabs open, FF (apparently) uses more resources than Chrome.
OTOH, if you normally have lots of tabs open, FF (apparently) uses less resources than Chrome.
I believe that this is caused by the Tab Sandboxes.

I only have Chrome installed in my Web Development VMs and I haven't been bothered to test these claims.

I usually have at least 20 tabs open in most of my PM profiles.

Currently I have 34 tabs open in PM:

  • Private Bytes: ~300 MB
  • Working Set: ~330 MB
  • Virtual Size: ~650 MB
 

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n/a
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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Realtek?
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Samsung S23B350
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1920x1080
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Antec GX300 Tower
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3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
I use MVPS HOSTS to filter noise in the wild. It trims the need for browser addons which love system resources. Of course no method or browser is bullet proof.
 

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Win 7 Proi3-471016 GB DDR3MSI GTX 950
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myBuild
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Win 7 Pro
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i3-4710
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Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H
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16 GB DDR3
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MSI GTX 950
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RealTek HD onboard
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Asus IPS
Screen Resolution
1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 EVO
WD Red
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Antec
Case
Antec
Cooling
3 Fans
Damn 20 tabs open at one time.
I must be doing something wrong.
I start shutting down tabs when I get over 4 open at the same time.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Damn 20 tabs open at one time.
I must be doing something wrong.
I start shutting down tabs when I get over 4 open at the same time.

I've just done a quick count of how many I have open - 31 Firefox, 6 Chrome and 3 IE :o
 

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Windows 11
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PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 11
John are you monitoring all your forum? I do understand that would take a lot of open tabs.

I'm not saying open tabs are good or bad. I just trying to think why I would need all those tabs open for. I don't want to miss out on the fun.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
After about 12-15 open tabs I can't see how anyone can tell what the heck is on any of the others they get so small ?
 

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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
Because I mostly use my Laptop for web browsing, I only use Chrome. It is a hogger on resources though. To be honest, nobody is safe from hackers. John, that's a large number of tabs. What are you doing with 3 web browsers simultaneously? ;)
 

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Windows 10 Home 64-BitIntel Core i3 380M @ 2.53GHz Arrandale 32nm T...Total RAM = 4.00 GB and Usable RAM = 3.80 GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz) Intel HD ...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron N4030
OS
Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 380M @ 2.53GHz Arrandale 32nm Technology
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0K13WN (CPU 1)
Memory
Total RAM = 4.00 GB and Usable RAM = 3.80 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics (Dell)
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Bluetooth Hands-free Audio
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1
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
ATA WDC WD3200BEVT-7 SCSI Disk Device Size = 320.00 GB
Internet Speed
6-14 Mbps Max and 153 Kbps Min
Antivirus
MBAM Pro, Windows Defender, SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot S&D
Browser
Microsoft Edge, IE11, Google Chrome, Firefox
Other Info
Your dude.
When I visit TV Tropes I can easily end up with 100+ tabs open.
I try to restrict my visits to that site, as (unsurprisingly) I end up trapped there for many hours.

Once when I was still using FF, I had over 200 tabs open.
I can't recall experiencing any major problems.
Of course the only other things running were my AV and Winamp.
I should have made a note of the RAM usage. :o

After about 12-15 open tabs I can't see how anyone can tell what the heck is on any of the others they get so small ?
My monitor is 1920x1080 which allows me to see 17 tabs on the tab bar (in PM).
Pale Moon displays tooltips with the page titles, if you hover over a tab.
I assume that other browsers do the same.

I normally only have a few tabs open when I use IE.
I only have the page I'm testing open in Chrome.

John, that's a large number of tabs. What are you doing with 3 web browsers simultaneously? ;)
When you are working on web sites, you need to check how they are rendered in multiple browsers, due to inconsistencies in the rendering engines.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
When I visit TV Tropes I can easily end up with 100+ tabs open.
I try to restrict my visits to that site, as (unsurprisingly) I end up trapped there for many hours.

Once when I was still using FF, I had over 200 tabs open.
I can't recall experiencing any major problems.
Of course the only other things running were my AV and Winamp.
I should have made a note of the RAM usage. :o

John, that's a large number of tabs. What are you doing with 3 web browsers simultaneously? ;)
When you are working on web sites, you need to check how they are rendered in multiple browsers, due to inconsistencies in the rendering engines.
I get it now, thanks for the follow up ;)
 

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Windows 10 Home 64-BitIntel Core i3 380M @ 2.53GHz Arrandale 32nm T...Total RAM = 4.00 GB and Usable RAM = 3.80 GBGeneric PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz) Intel HD ...
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron N4030
OS
Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 380M @ 2.53GHz Arrandale 32nm Technology
Motherboard
Dell Inc. 0K13WN (CPU 1)
Memory
Total RAM = 4.00 GB and Usable RAM = 3.80 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Generic PnP Monitor (1366x768@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics (Dell)
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC Bluetooth Hands-free Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
1
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
ATA WDC WD3200BEVT-7 SCSI Disk Device Size = 320.00 GB
Internet Speed
6-14 Mbps Max and 153 Kbps Min
Antivirus
MBAM Pro, Windows Defender, SuperAntiSpyware, SpyBot S&D
Browser
Microsoft Edge, IE11, Google Chrome, Firefox
Other Info
Your dude.

My Computer My Computer

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
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