Another network printer problem

DogT

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W7, 64 bit tower. Network with Asus router, wireless to an HP laptop with W7, 64 bit I think and the usb printer on the laptop, both home version. Most of the time the printer works, but once in a while it drops off. Usually I do a 'restore' to a previous time and it works, but this time I can't even install the printer from the tower. When I try to install from Devices and Printers and check Network printer, it shows up in the list, so I stop the search, select the HP computer and Brother HL-1540 printer and it starts and then immediately get "Windows cannot connect to the printer, access denied'. Even if I don't stop the search, same thing. I tried typing in the printer as a Local Port, no joy. Tower is always logged in as Admin. But I can see everything that is shared on that laptop at the tower, and visa versa. I can go to the laptop and print shared stuff from the tower no problemo. I have seen a message once that said the printer driver is not available on the network. Not sure what that means, but so far even doing a 'restore' point, nothing works. Been through the services and seems OK. I've tried uninstalling the printer from the LT and even unplugging it and restarting. No effect. I can even see the printer from the tower on the LT in the network under explorer. It's been like this from the get go, the printer keeps dropping out, so I usually just walk up to the LT and print from there, takes less time than spending all day trying to figure it out. Really aggravating.



Maybe I just need to uninstall the network and start over? It's all such a pain. Or just walk upstairs and print, I have to get the paper anyhow.
 

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AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.21GHz
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K9N Neo V2
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Hi DogT,

Have you got the printer setup on the Network as a static IP?

I hope this helps!
 

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Laptop
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Fujitsu LIFEBOOK
OS
Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
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Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
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FUJITSU FJNBB06
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4.00 GB
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Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
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[1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
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1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
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TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
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I don't know. I'll look into it. I'm assuming it wants to be static?
 

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AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.21GHz
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K9N Neo V2
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8GB
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Nvidea
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My Computer

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Fujitsu LIFEBOOK
OS
Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
FUJITSU FJNBB06
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Sound Card
[1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
Antivirus
AVG FREE
You have two choices for sharing your printer:
  1. Connect your printer to one of your computers, and share it off of that computer.
  2. Use a network adapter to connect your printer directly to the router, then connect to it as a true network printer from each computer. (Your printer won't connect directly to the network as is; you have to get an adapter to make that happen.)
Here is an example of a network adapter which will make your printer a true network printer:
https://www.amazon.com/Cisco-Linksy...&qid=1529680563&sr=8-14&keywords=print+server

This network adapter can be used for a different printer, as long as it is a USB printer, in case you one day change printers.

Utilizing a network adapter is the best way to network your printer. By using a network adapter on the printer, you avoid any issues which are caused by adding Windows into the mix, because in your current setup, you are dealing with the printer AND with Windows.
 

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Dell
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Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
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Haswell
Memory
4 GB
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Acer 23"
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1920 x 1080
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Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
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IBM Model M
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Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
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Firefox, Opera
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I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
Thanks for that print server idea. Didn't know. It looks like a more elegant way to do it. If I can't get this sharing thing working again I'll get one. I'm sure it's Windoze that's in the way. That way we could put the printer wherever we like instead of tying it to a computer.
 

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PC/Desktop
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OS
W7 64bit Home Premium OEM
CPU
AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.21GHz
Motherboard
K9N Neo V2
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidea
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WD Raptor
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Anytime you can isolate the printer by putting it directly on the network, you are making your life easier. By doing this, you eliminate any effect that Windows has on the sharing part of the print process.

Of course, it is possible to have a Windows issue on the computer that is accessing the network printer; but it will be limited to that one computer, rather than affecting all computers which want to share that printer.
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
Other Info
I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
Thanks for that print server idea. Didn't know. It looks like a more elegant way to do it. If I can't get this sharing thing working again I'll get one. I'm sure it's Windoze that's in the way. That way we could put the printer wherever we like instead of tying it to a computer.

+1 for Jim's print server idea. If you're unfamiliar with these devices, I wrote a small webpage many years ago illustrating how they can be integrated into your network.
 

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Dell Optiplex 7050
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Windows 7/8.1/10 multiboot
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Intel Core i7-7700
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Dell, Intel Q270 chipset
Memory
48GB (2x16GB Crucial DDR4-3200 + 2x8GB Hynix DDR4-2400)
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Intel HD630 + AMD Radeon R7 450 PCIe
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Asus VC279 (27")
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Toshiba M.2 NVMe (256GB),
Samsung 960 Evo (500GB),
WD Red Plus 80EFBX (8TB)
This is stupid. Along with the W7 wireless laptop that the printer is attached to, there's also a Mac that's hard wired to the router with my tower. Well, I selected the Mac Brother HL-5140 printer in the add printer under control panel and now it's printing. Go figure. The printer is still connected to the W7 laptop wireless. This is stupid. I'm going to bed.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
W7 64bit Home Premium OEM
CPU
AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.21GHz
Motherboard
K9N Neo V2
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidea
Hard Drives
WD Raptor
Antivirus
win
Browser
FF
Sometimes these things don't make sense. But if it is working, good.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
CPU
Haswell
Memory
4 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 23"
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two hard drives, 1TB each: One for Linux, one for my data.
Keyboard
IBM Model M
Antivirus
Sophos (Linux), Trend Micro (Windows)
Browser
Firefox, Opera
Other Info
I use Samba to share my data drive with the other computers at my house and with my guest session in VMWare Workstation Player.
We'll see what happens next week. I'm sure it will change. I've tried to print through the Mac before and it never worked. Still like the print server idea.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Generic
OS
W7 64bit Home Premium OEM
CPU
AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.21GHz
Motherboard
K9N Neo V2
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidea
Hard Drives
WD Raptor
Antivirus
win
Browser
FF
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