Solved Installing Win7 on a Win8 Machine

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It has been many years since I have had a brand name Desk Top. I think it might have been a Tandy 1000. See what I mean about many years? I have put together many of my own or had a local shop put one or two together. I will be faced with getting an additional Desktop machine sometime next year for a family member and expect it will have Win 8 installed.

I will want to install Win 7 on the Win 8 partition but will want to retain the factory installed Win 8 recovery partition for reasons I find it hard to explain right now. Will the clean install of Win 7 mess up the boot manager or whatever such that I will be unable to recover the original factory installed Win 8?

The above is moot if I can find a new machine with Win 7 on it rather than Win 8.

Thanks for any help.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS-8500
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium (Retail) Full version - With SP1
CPU
3.10 Gig Intel Core i5-3350P
Motherboard
Dell 0NW73C A00
Memory
8192 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n HVELA10194, Octo
Screen Resolution
1024 X 768
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSA2CW120G3 ATA Device [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
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HID Keyboard Device (HP)
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Dell (came with computer)
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cox high speed
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Hello mate.


Just install to an Extended partition / Logical drive and all that is of no concern at all, a simple right click / delete will remove Windows 7 with no startup repairs at all have a look through the information in this tutorial at the link below for some ideas.



 

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* BFK Customs *
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W 7 64-bit Ultimate
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Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
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ASUS P5Q Pro
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8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
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Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
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Microsoft 500
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Razer Diamondback 3G
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1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
Yes...if you do a clean install of 7 on an *8 machine it will wipe it completely clean. You do have the option of dual booting. You can partition you C: drive to the minimum GB of space to keep 8 and set the remaining GB space to from D: drive and then install 7 on that partition. It's a pretty straight forward process. Just when you boot up or reboot you will get the option to choose which OS you want to run.
 

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Custom built
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
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Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
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GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500
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XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
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On board RealTek HD
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Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
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Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB
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Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
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Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower
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Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler
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Logitech G510
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Razor DeathAdder
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Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800
Will the clean install of Win 7 mess up the boot manager or whatever such that I will be unable to recover the original factory installed Win 8?

Yes, it might.

You will have no trouble installing 7 to the win8 partition - leaving recov partition intact.

It depends how the oem set up accessing the recov proram.

There are a couple of ways round that.

First, make an image of the win8 partition- and the system partition. You can use any number of free tools for that.

If it is gpt - try the paragon backup and recovery free.

Second, run off a win8 repair cd/usb.

If the oem has a standard wim file in recov partition, you can boot the win8 repair cd and use system reset to apply the wim. Or you can use imagex/gimagex/any other wim handler.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Thank you BassFisher.

I understand you post but it doesn't quite do what I was looking for. Probably because I didn't pose the question clearly.

Here is what I think I am trying to do.

As the machine will probably come with one HD with a primary partition C: with Win 8 and another hidden partition containing whatever is needed to recover it to its original factory configuration if needed. (Such as returning it for repair of a hardware failure or just complete dissatisfaction with it.)

What I want is to have two partitions, one primary C: containing Win 7 and one other (perhaps extended) D: for data and finally the original hidden recovery partition. No vestige of Win 8 on the machine except to whatever is in the hidden partition.

Will the clean install of Win 7 do away with the ability to put the machine back into its original factory configuration?

I hope this clarifies the original post and I apologize for the confusion.

Thank you.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS-8500
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium (Retail) Full version - With SP1
CPU
3.10 Gig Intel Core i5-3350P
Motherboard
Dell 0NW73C A00
Memory
8192 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n HVELA10194, Octo
Screen Resolution
1024 X 768
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSA2CW120G3 ATA Device [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
INTEL SSDSA2CW080G3 ATA Device [Hard drive] (80.02 GB)
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device (HP)
Mouse
Dell (came with computer)
Internet Speed
cox high speed
Other Info
The above taken with Bel Arc Advisor
did you see the post above? :confused:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
did you see the post above? :confused:

Yes, assuming you are talking about your earlier post. I saw it after I posted my reply to BassFisher. Wish I had waited before my reply for it answered my question completely. Can't imagine why I didn't think of it. Have used ATI for years and will adopt that approach.

Thank you very much.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS-8500
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium (Retail) Full version - With SP1
CPU
3.10 Gig Intel Core i5-3350P
Motherboard
Dell 0NW73C A00
Memory
8192 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (19.1"vis, s/n HVELA10194, Octo
Screen Resolution
1024 X 768
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSA2CW120G3 ATA Device [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
INTEL SSDSA2CW080G3 ATA Device [Hard drive] (80.02 GB)
Keyboard
HID Keyboard Device (HP)
Mouse
Dell (came with computer)
Internet Speed
cox high speed
Other Info
The above taken with Bel Arc Advisor
You're welcome .

Good luck with it.

New machine might be using EFI/GPT.

I think you would need a pretty recent version of ATI if it is
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Sorry mate I assumed you wanted to dual-boot; good to see you found a solution.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
* BFK Customs *
OS
W 7 64-bit Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q Pro
Memory
8GB Dominator 8500C5D
Graphics Card(s)
ATI : XFX 5870
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio 7-1
Monitor(s) Displays
1x 47" LCD HDMI & 3x 26" LCD HDMI
Screen Resolution
1920x1080P & 1920x1200
Hard Drives
1x 80GB Intel X25-M G2 SSD : 1x 500GB & 1x 640GB WD Caviar Black(s)
PSU
Corsair 620HX
Case
Cooler Master RC-690
Cooling
Tuniq Tower 120, 2x 140mm and 3x 120mm case fans
Keyboard
Microsoft 500
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
14 Mb/s
Other Info
1x Koutech 3Gb/s SATA HDD Hot Swap Rack
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