Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs

[ganjiry]

Intel kills off desktop

What will we do if we can't upgrade our rigs?
I'd be lost without my pc

Intel is killing the desktop, but not quite as soon as people expect it to, there will be one last gasp, but that is irrelevant. Word is finally leaking there won’t be a desktop PC chip in a bit over a year.

In a story that SemiAccurate has been following for several months, Broadwell will not come in an LGA package, so no removable CPU. The news was first publicly broken by the ever sharp PC Watch, english version here, but the news has been floating in the backchannel for a bit now. The problem? This information wasn’t floating around the OEMs or the majority of the PC ecosystem, they had no clue. What does all of this mean? Quite a bit.

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Intel kills off the desktop, PCs go with it | SemiAccurate

 

[logicearth]

More over speculated the sky is falling garbage.

So the new Broadwell chip will not be a desktop processor? Big deal! Intel has a lot more other (desktop) chips on the market and on the way. Again people panicking for no reason, just like they did with Y2K.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

IF this is true, it might give AMD a much needed boost.

 

[Layback Bear]

Intel is kind of like Microsoft. So big that they can do just about anything them want to. Intel will say that a cpu motherboard combination unit will allow them to improve quality standards, lower power usage and give a all around better consumer experience. What they won't say is they want to control and own the motherboard market just like they do the PC cpu chip market. When I build a new computer I always put Intel on the list of motherboard to compare. They do make quality motherboards. They just want to be the only one on the list.

 

[yowanvista]

This is getting out of control, they're going crazy over this whole nonsense tablet whatsoever hype. They may want to integrate the processor on the board of their low end boards/tablets/laptops but they should give PC users especially gamers a CHOICE. No need to force users like Microsoft did with Windows 8/Metro crap.

 

[logicearth]

Seriously, people?! Oh god the sky is failing! The sky is failing! That is what you all sound like to me, failing for this, hook line. We just got Sandy-Bridge-E along with Ivy-Bridge-E soon to be released. Both have DESKTOP PROCESSOR packages. We are going to be well taken care of well beyond the time it takes Broadwell to even be released.

Intel is not going to kill there desktop line of processor. They still have AMD to compete with, they are not going to hand their business over to them. They also have a server market to continue and supply processors to that. No, Intel is not stupid enough to kill off their desktop line of processors. As I said in my first post, "More over speculated the sky is falling garbage."

Also, Haswell, the supposedly next in line next processor from Intel, has a desktop line sockets and all that.

 

[DeaconFrost]

If I understand correctly, the motherboard and processor would not be separate entities anymore. I don't see that as being a big deal, considering both are usually upgraded together. I only use Intel chips and Intel chipset boards, so this really would be a non-factor for me.

 

[Solarstarshines]

If I understand correctly, the motherboard and processor would not be separate entities anymore. I don't see that as being a big deal, considering both are usually upgraded together. I only use Intel chips and Intel chipset boards, so this really would be a non-factor for me.

That is what I was thinking as well CPU+Board already together now this will cut out the middle man as MB makers ......

You have to choose from what line Intel will produce ,If you read the article it tells you everything will be the same with the exception of you choosing seperate MB and Chip Personaly would of thought this would have happened a long time ago

Also if Intel does do this people like us Enthusist will be forced to choose there offerings and may not even have the performance and freedom as before

That is what I got from this read personaly they should test a few boards and reactions before converting to a whole new way of MB

Assuming this is what there Idea is :sarc:

 

[DeaconFrost]

That is what I was thinking as well CPU+Board already together now this will cut out the middle man as MB makers ......

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

 

[FuturDreamz]

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

 

[logicearth]

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Intel_Pentium_III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Edge_Contact_Cartridge

 

[bigmck]

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Intel does make their own motherboards, and has done so for years. I often use them in builds because they just plain work. I'd have no problem with them building cpu+mobo combos, as long as they allowed other brands to use their processors in their own mobos....which is good for the industry and the consumer.

 

[FuturDreamz]

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

I don't think it would be possible. That means that Intel would be committing itself to making motherboards for even laptops, let alone every single needed configuration, no matter how obscure

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Intel_Pentium_III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Edge_Contact_Cartridge

that's the one. It would be interesting as to how it's implemented, considering it would need over a thousand pins.

 

[bigmck]

No, it won't cut out the mobo manufacturers. They will still make and sell products, just with the CPU built-in. That's already been done in the mini-ITX segment and no one has complained about it. It only seems natural to expand it to the entire spectrum. You know there will be levels as well...from the cheap budget build to the high-end lines.

I don't think Intel could legally start making mobo and cut out the mobo makers. This is the same reason as auto makers are not allowed to make tires.

I don't think it would be possible. That means that Intel would be committing itself to making motherboards for even laptops, let alone every single needed configuration, no matter how obscure

How hard would it be for a third party "CPU card" specification to be created? Kind of like how GPUs are placed onto cards by OEMs.

You mean like some of the old Pentiums: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Intel_Pentium_III_Katmai.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Edge_Contact_Cartridge

that's the one. It would be interesting as to how it's implemented, considering it would need over a thousand pins.

Then we could also bring back the Hard Cards. I have an idea, we could have motherboards with nothing but slots on it and everything could be on a card.

 

[Layback Bear]

I do and have use Intel cpu's and motherboards. They are quality. I still like to choose. When you look at my specs you will see I chose many different brands for different hardware. That is part of building your own computer. The research and homework before you ever spend a dime on any hardware. I do think we will see the time when you will only be able to buy as a unit. Motherboard, cpu with great built in video and hardwired ram. That will be ashame.

 

[DeaconFrost]

There will still be choices...just less separate components to choose from. It's been that way in the Mini-ITX world (with the Atom processors) for a while. You had choices in boards and procs....but they came together. You just had to pick the specific combo you wanted.

 

[strollin]

Motherboard mfrs buy chipsets from Intel that get built into their motherboards so I don't see an issue. When a mfr purchases the chipset from Intel, it will now include the processor as well.

The trend for years has been to pack more capability into the motherboard which is why we now have many mobos with video, audio, ethernet, USB 2 & 3, etc... built-in whereas in the past these would have been added via discreet cards.

 

[Brink]

Yesterday, a report emerged claiming that Intel is planning to release its upcoming 14-nanometer Broadwell architecture processors as a ball grid array (BGA) rather than an land grid array (LGA) package.

This would have several widespread implications, including bringing to an end to processor (CPU) upgrades.

Traditionally, the processors in desktop systems are fitted into a socket on the motherboard that allows them to be removed and replaced, while systems such as notebooks and tablets have the CPU soldered onto the motherboard.

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Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs | ZDNet

 

[Layback Bear]

When I built my P6X58D-E board I had about 6 choices of intel cpu's. i7-920 to i7-X995. I really can't see Asus building that many motherboards with that many different cpu's hardwired. Just waiting for some one to buy them. Every motherboard cpu combination would have to be special ordered if one chose a non OEM combination. The price and time would be high and long. If my thoughts are true the choices would be very limited.