PCs for media creation

[merkat106]

Well that's disappointing. That computer I found only costs about $1100 (CAD). Would it be stupid to just buy it for the sake of a good deal? I will probably only be working with 720p footage and wont be doing too much intense editing. Nothing professional or anything. I would also use it for games and lots of other things. What do you advise?

If you won't be working with 1080p, then the computer you found should be fine. It's far better than mine, but I use an older creative suite.

And to anyone who says Mac is more stable, I know to the contrary. I've personally seen them freeze, boot slowly and refuse to boot altogether. And I do think it is only a matter of time before we see viruses for Mac.

 

[Petey7]

And to anyone who says Mac is more stable, I know to the contrary. I've personally seen them freeze, boot slowly and refuse to boot altogether. And I do think it is only a matter of time before we see viruses for Mac.

I just learned of the WSOD that Macs get. Personally, I think blue is a better color.

As for it being a matter of time until Macs get virues. They have had them for years, and quite a few nasty ones too.

 

[Froot Joose]

Well that's disappointing. That computer I found only costs about $1100 (CAD). Would it be stupid to just buy it for the sake of a good deal? I will probably only be working with 720p footage and wont be doing too much intense editing. Nothing professional or anything. I would also use it for games and lots of other things. What do you advise?

If you won't be working with 1080p, then the computer you found should be fine. It's far better than mine, but I use an older creative suite.

And to anyone who says Mac is more stable, I know to the contrary. I've personally seen them freeze, boot slowly and refuse to boot altogether. And I do think it is only a matter of time before we see viruses for Mac.

Sweet thanks. So what creative suite do you think would perform best for me?

 

[DeaconFrost]

[o why everyone always automatically assumes a PC is a computer with a Windows OS? :sarc:

I would direct that question to Apple. After all, aren't they the ones who started the misinformation compaign known as Mac vs PC? They don't call him Windows Guy...they call him PC.

Apple doesn't understand their own focus. You can't target a PC, because they'll loose that battle everytime. What they should do, is try to target Windows, and then sell OSX as a standalone product to be installed on the PC of choice. However, they'd lose their profits, due to their insane mark up on their hardware.

Mac OS X is still more secure than any Windows, because majority of viruses, trojans, etc. are targeted for Windows. And Macs tend to be more stable, because the hardware and software are designed to be compatible from the ground up, unlike on windows where the software and hardware all come from different suppliers/manufacturers.

There are several false points here. First, OXS is not more secure...just read any security company's findings...even ones not sponsored by MS. OSX has more holes, and Apple takes months to fix what Microsoft does in a week, thanks to Patch Tuesdays. Apple usually is in denial over a hole, and then they eventually issue a fix. That's poor customer service. Apple users also tend to "think" they are more secure, but that isn't the casae anymore, and that type is thinking is dangerous. Security through obscurity doesn't apply anymore.

Second, Macs aren't any more or less stable than PCs....however, when you consider the fact they should be...it is an embrassment of Apple that a device where they make the hardware and the software, has any issues aside of hardware failure. Game consoles don't have those issues, do they? Nope...you buy a game, it runs, and it always runs.

Truth is, if you really take a good look at Apple, and put aside the trendy, fashionable, Mac is awesome bias....and just stick to the facts....you simply can't justify the purchase of one. I have several Macs in my company, and their customer support can't touch Dell's.

It is absolutely sick how people fall into a belief that a company is 100% wonderful, and ignore so many facts. That cult or flock mentality kills me.

To prove I'm unbiased, I own two iPhone 3GS phones. Why? Because unlike their computers, the iPhones did more and offered more than any other Smartphone that AT&T was selling at the time...for a comparable cost as the competition. You absolutely cannot say this in the computer market.

 

[Twibitsu]

Apple usually is in denial over a hole, and then they eventually issue a fix. That's poor customer service. Apple users also tend to "think" they are more secure, but that isn't the casae anymore, and that type is thinking is dangerous. Security through obscurity doesn't apply anymore.

There are currently no active viruses for OS X in circulation, and trojans must be installed to infect the computer, so yes Mac users are still more secure than Windows users, phishing, scams excluded. You have a point, though, as in the end, no anti-virus software can replace common sense.

I've used Windows for years now and still use occasionally, and I've had only couple viruses on my XP. When I ditched my old machine and switched to Vista I've had no viruses whatsoever.

Second, Macs aren't any more or less stable than PCs....however, when you consider the fact they should be...it is an embrassment of Apple that a device where they make the hardware and the software, has any issues aside of hardware failure. Game consoles don't have those issues, do they? Nope...you buy a game, it runs, and it always runs.

Or you buy an Xbox 360 and get a red ring of death

Every company does make bad units, that's inevitable to occur with mass production like we have these days. Apple's computers do hold up longer than equivalent PC's and hold their value better.

Truth is, if you really take a good look at Apple, and put aside the trendy, fashionable, Mac is awesome bias....and just stick to the facts....you simply can't justify the purchase of one. I have several Macs in my company, and their customer support can't touch Dell's.

I personally find nothing fashionable in owning a Mac, but yeah Macs have become more popular these days.

Apple does make very user friendly phones, I am aware of that. I own a nokia phone and compared to iPhone, the touch screen is pretty unresponsive and the phone tends to have occasional hiccups, slows down, and the interface is a mess, maybe that's just me, but no wonder Nokia is losing the smart phone battle.

 

[Petey7]

Twibitsu, my cousins husband owns a Mac. He called me today about how its been acting up. I told him to take it to Apple store. He has a virus he got just surfing the web. They told him all Macs need anti-virus software and that there many Mac viruses in circulation, so, I take their opinion over yours.

 

[Twibitsu]

Twibitsu, my cousins husband owns a Mac. He called me today about how its been acting up. I told him to take it to Apple store. He has a virus he got just surfing the web. They told him all Macs need anti-virus software and that there many Mac viruses in circulation, so, I take their opinion over yours.

I won't, until I know what virus that is he got.

 

[madtownidiot]

IMO most of the best media editing software is available free and comes with Ubuntu Studio. Most commercial media editing software is overpriced and bloated. Perfect example is Nero

 

[wysiwyg]

Rubbish, with Nero you only install the applications you use, any idiot can install the lot, selectivity is the answer.

Its only bloated(?) if you never use all parts.

A full range of options is not bloat.

 

[madtownidiot]

I use DVD::rip in linux for video conversion and burning dvds and vcds mainly because it can do the same job as nero or AVS in less time, using fewer system resources and with more options, even converting & burning (or ripping & converting) on the fly in a single step (with no need to write a 4-8 GB TS file to the HDD, unlike any of the other video editing software I've used), but the UI is not for beginners. The upside is, there is no limited trial version of DVD::rip, and it doesn't open up any browser windows to sites that ask for money

 

[madtownidiot]

Macs have almost no security at all if the user doesn't know how to enable it, and I haven't met too many Mac users who are computer savvy enough to know how to disable single sign in mode, which gives terminal mode root access to anyone with physical control of the computer. A few lines in the terminal reveals the owner's password in plain text, and a minute or so later,

 

[DeaconFrost]

There are currently no active viruses for OS X in circulation, and trojans must be installed to infect the computer.

We've had two of our Macs infected and cleaned in the past year, which is the same number of PC viruses I've had to remove. However, We have 32 PC computers in everyday use. The experience of one person, I know....but malware is out there for either platform, and users can/are getting infected.

Apple's computers do hold up longer than equivalent PC's and hold their value better.

Treat it like a car (because some of the Mac pros can cost as much). If you look at the percentage of the decline, they do not hold their values any better. Any pre-Intel Macs are nearly worthless at this point, after costing so much only a few years ago. PCs still always have a value, and can even be donated to charities, schools, etc. I haven't found a program that takes old Macs.

Apple does make very user friendly phones, I am aware of that. I own a nokia phone and compared to iPhone, the touch screen is pretty unresponsive and the phone tends to have occasional hiccups, slows down, and the interface is a mess, maybe that's just me, but no wonder Nokia is losing the smart phone battle.

Nokia hasn't been a major player in the Smartphone arena for years, at least here in the States. I own two iPhones, and they have plenty of their own issues (even when I hold it properly). At the time, they were the same cost as a Blackberry, and the Droid platform wasn't available. If I was phone shopping today, I'd easily go the Droid route instead. I have been fairly happy with my iPhone, but you can't really compare their phones to their computers. First, the iPhones are priced at or around the same as their competition. If Apple did that with their computers, the PC vs Apple debate would become much less one-sided, and be...well, actually debatable.

 

[madtownidiot]

Agreed on that point.. macbooks are very popular with college students, and used ones usually sell faster than windows based laptops, but for a much lower percentage of their original price.