Solved Remote Desktop question

[bloodninja]

if it wasnt configured properly or any ports were being blocked by the firewall, wouldnt that prevent me from connecting to it from PC1 in the first place?

im connecting using IP..

 

[mckillwashere]

If the RDC (remote desktop connection) port is blocked then that will not work you will still be able to connect to the internet.

 

[bloodninja]

also if port 3389 was being blocked i wouldnt be able to RDC to PC2 from PC1 using PC2's internal IP..
i think..

 

[Jonathan_King]

To connect via your external IP address, you'll need to remember that all computers in the network will have the same external IP. Call it 66.67.109.144. Try changing the RDP port on PC2. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\TerminalServer\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber, and change that number from 3389 to 3390.

- Be sure all firewalls are either disabled are set to allow Remote Desktop through that port.

Now try connecting to 66.67.109.144:3390, and hopefully that will do the trick.

 

[bloodninja]

lol Jonathan, u'r gettin' close
i had already done that but, there's still the matter of forwarding that port..

 

[chev65]

ICS isn't made to do RDC, you really need a router for this. It's a waste of time doing it any other way. Set up the router then use the tutorial below to set up the machines for RDC "the easy way".

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3922-remote-desktop-connection-rdc-network.html

As far as jumping through hoops to try this without a router,... what would be the point, especially when the OP has a router already. We can more easily help the OP with the router set up then it would be to get RDC working without a router, which I've never done before or even heard of anyone trying before.

Routers aren't difficult to set up at all but sometimes firmware updates are required to get them working right with Windows 7.

 

[Jonathan_King]

Here is a message someone on another forum sent me:

Since he's using a cross over cable bet the 2 computers, the ipconfig /all results will be diff, one will show a 169.X.X.X address, therefore chev65' 'ICS isn't made to do RDC' is correct and he needs to get a router.

Note: He might try to install TeamViewer or UltraVNC, it might work, if he's gonna go for that.

 

[bloodninja]

thx a lot for all ur efforts u guys..

Chev!!!!!!!!!!! my main man! u helped me setup my daisy-chained PC3

lol Jonathan, what is that other guy on about?
i do not have a cross-over cable.. like i said, all my mobos got dual-NIC's..
n even if i did, how does he come up with 1 computer having IP 169.*? lol

alright, i know im stubborn but that doesnt mean i cannot be right on occasion..
there is NO WAY ima get a router in here! like i said, im allergic (i could die!)

Chev, u really had me start believing that RDC worked in such a unique way that i'd really have no choice but to get a router but here's what i did:
1. opened up Google
2. typed in "port forwarding software"
3. clicked the first result (link)
4. set up Listen Port (3390), Dest. IP (192.168.0.213), Dest. Port (3390)
5. run RDC on PC1, connect to 127.0.0.1:3390 (also worked with public IP, obviously)
6. guess what happened

 

[mckillwashere]

Glad you got it working....
Totally insecure...
But I guess you do not care about security.....

 

[bloodninja]

Glad you got it working....
Totally insecure...
But I guess you do not care about security.....

wait, what?
care to elaborate?
insecure how?

 

[mckillwashere]

Routers have firewalls.
They separate you from the internet.
Give you an internal ip range (relates back to the previous)
If you get a nasty on one of your machines that opens a port on the machine itself its still blocked on the routers.

 

[bloodninja]

Routers have firewalls.
They separate you from the internet.
Give you an internal ip range (relates back to the previous)
If you get a nasty on one of your machines that opens a port on the machine itself its still blocked on the routers.

heh, thats funny.. u couldav easily been mistaken for describing my gateway computer there..

 

[mckillwashere]

So you use your first machine as a gateway? Why not just set up a simple pfsense box...

 

[bloodninja]

cuz PC1 also already has a firewall, also already separates the internal network from the internet, also already gives me an internal ip range..

i do not know how do u come up with either having a router to otherwise being:

Totally insecure...

but anyways, thats a whole other subject..
just wanted to let u guys know that i got it working n how i did it..

 

[mckillwashere]

There are reasons why it can be considered insecure...
At least from my standpoint.
Software firewalls can be easily exploited if on a consumer/production machine.

However you are happy with your setup and that is good enough for me.

 

[bloodninja]

There are reasons why it can be considered insecure...
At least from my standpoint.
Software firewalls can be easily exploited if on a consumer/production machine.

However you are happy with your setup and that is good enough for me.

:shock:
how easily? 0day xplts?
as if u dont have those for routers as well

in either case, u think ur router is ur first line of defense? hardly..

anyways, u couldav avoided all this dick-measuring like, instead of going "oh, u dont want a router, so u do not care about security n ur network is TOTALLY insecure" u couldav just gone with something like "ur network security is only as good as ur attacker's lack of skill" n be done with it..

 

[mckillwashere]

I agree totally.
And yes router do have 0 day security holes.
Before this turns into a fight,
Lets call a truce so if anyone else wishes to preform a daisy chain setup,
They have a solution.
(so mods do not remove this thread,)

Ps.
I have a double NAT,
A DMZ,
Two firewalls,
And my router.
I know enough about security to protect what I use,
My specialty is preventing the human aspect of an attack.

 

[Jonathan_King]

Bloodninja, do you need anything else? Can we ask the mods to mark this thread as solved?

 

[bloodninja]

yep, thats a wrap, thx Jon..
i only came here after being denied support from Microsoft for this being an "off-policy issue"..
Win7 is so huge n i figured theres a bunch of MCSE's lurkin' around in here that i thought i'd try my luck for an elegant solution or a proper way of approaching this, perhaps being pointed to a feature thats been inside Win7 itself all along..

Before this turns into a fight,
Lets call a truce

i do not need to call anything..
the only reason i replied in the first place was cuz i was intrigued thinking u were refering to the way i decided to use RDC as being "totally insecure"..


PS:
my Certifications include MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, MCT, CCNA, CEH Certified Ethical Hacker, Citrix Certified Enterprise Administrator, Citrix Certified Instructor, CompTIA A+, CompTIA Network+, CompTIA Server+, CompTIA Security+ and CompTIA I-Net+
*/End of dick-measuring*

 

[chev65]

yep, thats a wrap, thx Jon..
i only came here after being denied support from Microsoft for this being an "off-policy issue"..
Win7 is so huge n i figured theres a bunch of MCSE's lurkin' around in here that i thought i'd try my luck for an elegant solution or a proper way of approaching this, perhaps being pointed to a feature thats been inside Win7 itself all along..

Before this turns into a fight,
Lets call a truce

i do not need to call anything..
the only reason i replied in the first place was cuz i was intrigued thinking u were refering to the way i decided to use RDC as being "totally insecure"..


PS:
my Certifications include MCSE, MCDBA, MCSA, MCT, CCNA, CEH Certified Ethical Hacker, Citrix Certified Enterprise Administrator, Citrix Certified Instructor, CompTIA A+, CompTIA Network+, CompTIA Server+, CompTIA Security+ and CompTIA I-Net+
*/End of dick-measuring*

You have all those certifications yet you couldn't set up a router?
I'm sure you had another reason for not having a router set up in the first place but I can't think of any good reasons not to have one myself, anyway I'm glad you have it working now.