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I would like to replace my server with a low (electrical power consumption) server. The server does not do much more than serve files, so I am not concerned about processing capabilities, etc.; but the case in which the server is housed must be large enough to hold two 2.5 inch SATA solid state drives. Since I am posting here, the server must also be capable of running Windows 7.

Can anyone recommend a machine at which I should look?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 x64 Pro
CPU
Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80
Memory
16 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK
usually people take HP 800 G3 DM 35W to do the job running linux.

HP 800 G3 DM is very inexpensive, as low as 0.99.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=hp+800+&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&_sop=15


Other HP 800 DM Gx (x = 1 to 6) is fine. I prefer HP 800 DM G4, can hold upto two M2 SSD and one SATA SSD.

I also run Dell 7070. Dell is tiny, easy to maintain. but feel plastic "cheap". worry about its dying off any time.
HP has better performance. more USB ports (USB3.0/3.1/3.2). more graphics ports (three), more SSD slots (two M2 NVMe).


If DM is too compact, or need more SATA slots. HP 800 G3 SFF, it will meed all of your present requests.
HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Mini vs. HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF Comparison
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
siliconbeaver - Thanks for the prompt reply. I looked at the HP 800 DM G4 and it appears that it will hold everything I need held. BUT - can Windows 7 be installed on it?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 x64 Pro
CPU
Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz
Motherboard
MSI P55-GD80
Memory
16 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom
    OS
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
    CPU
    J1900
    Motherboard
    ASROCK Q1900M
    Memory
    4GB DDR3 1333
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel 7 Gen IGP
    Hard Drives
    Multiple SATA & USB3
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Browser
    Latest Chrome & Older Firefox
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Cobbled Together Leftover Parts
    OS
    Win7 Ultimate SP1 x64
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II x4 BE 965
    Motherboard
    Asus M4A785TD-V Evo
    Memory
    16GB as 4 x 4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1060
    Sound Card
    Via Envy Chaintech AV-710
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung TVs
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    0 - Just SSDs in this box.
Thanks, I am aware of alleged alternatives but if siliconbeaver has the original (which is for uhd610 and uhd630 ), perhaps he could upload it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
True,

alternative is available for Intel CPUs.

What I posted for OP is a sure and specific solution (for HP 800 G4). I have run the driver version 21.20.16.5068 for HP 800 G3/G4
8500/8600 --- Coffee Lake architecture, UHD630
7500 --- Kaby Lake architecture, HD630

It's confirmed that the driver works well.

but for other motherboards, for Dell, have to debug case-by-case. (for example, it's confirmed the driver NOT working for Dell 7060/70).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
sdi installs the 21.20.16.5077 igpu driver which works on most 300 series motherboards.

- - - Updated - - -

cant get any igpu drivers to work so far on gigabyte h310m s2h. It doesnt show Display Adapters in devmgmt, completely absent.

s2h-devmgmt.jpg

yet nothing showing under problem devices

s2h-problem-devices.jpg

vga drivers are working

SDI offered the 5077 drivers and installed them. On restart just a black screen with no way out except hard shutdown.

I have never come across that before.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
in my debugging, one method I often try is to install Windows 8.1,
If Windows 8.1 install no problem, then install its graphics driver, either canonkong or SDI method, if successful, Windows 7 install is likely to go through. (just need a right way)

Dell 7060/7070 failed to pass above test. on Windows 8.1, whatever I tried, couldn't get graphics driver install. all failed. hence my sentence is no way to install Windows 7 (as Windows 8.1 install failure).

my Dell 7070 I5-9500 summary
https://www.sevenforums.com/install...-optiplex-7070-sff-i5-9500-a.html#post3532943

you may try Windows 8.1 install first.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Updated bios using qflash "Intact" mode

The original was bios version was FL. Now it is FN

s2h-afterbiosupdate.jpg

presumably the FL bios it came with was corrupted in some way

The msdm table is retained.

now Display adapters are shown in devmgmt

after-bios-update1.jpg

add igpu driver with sdi

SDI-1.jpg

reboot and there it is

after-bios-update2.jpg

success :-)

win7 running perfectly so far. on gigabyte h310m s2h ( not the 2.0 version ). Everything works, no missing drivers.

H310M S2H (rev. 1.1) Key Features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Its specs says, the board supports i7/i9 9th gen CPUs. Amazing.
Those i7/i9, equivalent to i5 11th/12th gen CPUs, per bench test.

In my practice, I tried to avoid i7/i9 Windows 7 install.
i3 too weak. hence often took i5 hi-end CPUs. 6600/7600/8600/9600.

So, you didn't install external graphics, still use built-in UHD630. that's changeling, given i7/i9 9th gen CPUs.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
I would rather avoid external graphics. I dont play games so a graphics card is a waste of space, money and electricity

Pleased win 7 runs on the s2h ( non 2.0 ) because they claim it doesn't. Supposedly the special 2.0 is for win7.

The drivers from 2.0 can be used on non 2.0. They don't supply igpu driver but that can be done easily with sdi

h310m s2h ( non 2.0 ) allegedly only win10/11

h310m-non-2.0.jpg


h310m s2h 2.0 has drivers for win7/8.1

h310m-2.0.jpg


H310M S2H 2.0 (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
cannot agree more.

prior to G4, my windows 7 install often involved external graphics card, since HP 800 G4 8600/8600T, decided to stick with UHD 630. hence the OS install gets much easier.

I would rather avoid external graphics. I dont play games so a graphics card is a waste of space, money and electricity
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Elite 800 G5
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    CPU
    I7-9700
    Memory
    32 GB
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    ASUS UX305C
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Intel H310 chipset was introduced specifically to support Windows 7

No

Only the boards with special revision 2.0 at the end of the name are supposed to support win7.

I have just shown that the non 2.0 also works fine with win7
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
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