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    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management

    Create the Windows 7 System Reserved Partition after Installation
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    Create the New Windows 7 System Reserved Partition Using Windows Disk Management

    This information can be used to create the Windows 7 System Reserved partition after you have installed Windows using only Windows native disk management.

    The main advantage of the System Reserved partition, it adds a link to WinRE (Windows Recovery Environment) to the F8 advanced boot options in Windows 7 that can be accessed during PC startup to repair startup errors if a Windows installer or a system repair disk isn't available for use; it also creates a central location to store the boot files needed to start Windows in a dual/multi boot situation and that makes it very easy to replace/remove a single OS when needed.

    There must be at least one (1) Primary partition for creation/use as the System Reserved partition will not function as intended from an Extended partition; for further information on this requirement see Option Two #2 below.
       Warning

    As with anything that makes changes to the Windows structure there is always the chance for an error to occur, it would be advisable to make reliable backups to the media of your choice of any important data, i.e. pictures, music or documents, that you would not want to lose before you attempt any of the methods out-lined here, it is always better to be safe than sorry.

    Let's get started!

    Have a look at this tutorial before you start this for an alternative method.

    System Reserved : Create for Dual Boot



    Option One

    Create the Windows 7 Syetem Reserved Partition


    In the Windows start menu search box type diskmgmt.msc right click the entry and click "Run as Administrator" if you get a User Account Control (UAC) prompt enter your user credentials and click Yes.

    1) In the disk management window and assuming you have created or already have unallocated space to start with, right click that space and click New Simple Volume then Next for the first "Wizard" dialog box.
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    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-newsimplevolume.jpg
    2) In the "Specify Volume Size" box type 200 for the size to create and click Next.

    The reason for suggesting to create the System Reserved at 200MB instead of the new default of 100MB is an attempt to curb some of the issues we're now seeing with the partition being too small when dual/multi booting and it also being needed for use with the Windows 7 Backup and Restore and BitLocker programs.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-size.jpg
    3) In the "Assign Drive Letter" box do not assign a drive letter and click Next.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-assign.jpg
    4) In the "Format" box at the "Volume Label" line type System Reserved and do not put a check/tic at the "quick" box and click Next
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-label.jpg
    5) At the last "Completing" wizard dialog box click Finish to complete the process.




    Option Two

    Install a second Windows Operating System


    1) Now if you want to install a second Windows OS using the remaining unallocated space it's a very easy process; create this partition in the same way you created the SysResv partition; when you get to the "Specify Volume Size" dialog box click Next to accept the offered size or you can choose to create a specific size; for this one you can assign the next available drive letter; then at the "Format" box you would use a Label (name) that you choose like Windows 7 or whatever you like and click Finish for the last "Wizard" dialog box.
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    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-w_7logical.jpg
    2) If there are already three (3) existing Primary partitions Windows will only create the fourth partition as an Extended partition, if you end up with an Extended/Logical drive, you can choose to do the Windows installation to the Logical drive and there will be no issues at all if you do and it can always be converted to a Primary partition at a later time if you choose.

    For further information on the creation and use of Extended partition / Logical drives, have a look at this tutorial and its related links listed below.

    System Reserved : Multi Boot from Logical Partitions

    3) Strictly for demonstration purposes here, I'm going to use the free Partition Wizard bootable disk (PWBD) to convert the Extended to a Primary partition before the Windows installation so that I will have four (4) Primary partitions, for an out-line of the process see Option Four in this tutorial.

    Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-w_7primary.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-setprimary.jpg
    Method One: Install Windows 7 / Vista

    1) The first thing is to mark the "System Reserved" partition as "Active" so Windows will know where to create the system volume, where the system boot files are stored; in Windows disk management right click the SysResv partition and click "Mark as Active" then Yes for the conformation dialog box, the third snip is what you will have.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-srw_7markactive.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-activeyes.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-sractive2.jpg
    2) Now insert the Windows install media into the Optical Disk Drive and restart the PC to set the first boot device as the ODD in the BIOS and install Windows 7 to the created "Windows 7" partition.

    You will want to do a clean install choosing the "Custom (advanced)" not the "Upgrade" option, when you are presented with this "Where do you want ... " dialog box click to choose the created "Windows 7" partition and click next; do not use the installer to format anything.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-w_7choose.jpg
    3) Here's the end result.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-bootw_7.jpg
    4) You will have to use EasyBCD from within Windows 7 to add an entry for Vista to the Windows boot (dual boot) menu but that's the easiest part of this process.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-bootvista.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-vista.jpg
    Method Two: Install Windows XP

    The XP partition has to remain the system volume for the installation process or it will cause all sorts of issues that have to be corrected before XP will boot correctly in conjunction with the use of the "System Reserved" partition in a dual/multi boot configuration; this method is only possible using a Primary partition, it is not possible using an Extended/Logical drive.

    1) Use the same methods above to create both the SysResv and a partition to install XP to; right click the created XP partition and click "Mark as Active" then Yes for the conformation dialog box.
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    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-xpmarkactive.jpg
    2) Now insert the Windows install media into the Optical Disk Drive and restart the PC to set the first boot device as the ODD in the BIOS and install Windows XP to the created "XP Professional" partition; do not use the installer to format anything.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-xpchoose.jpg
    When XP starts, these next steps have to be done and done in this order to get XP and whichever OS (Vista / Windows7) you're dual booting to boot correctly so you won't have issues later.

    3) In Windows XP disk management, right click the "System Reserved" partition and click "Change Drive Letter" then in the dialog box that opens click "Remove" then Yes for the "Confirm" dialog box.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-xpremoveletter.jpg
    4) Now right click the SysResv partition and click "Mark as Active" then Yes for the "Disk Management" conformation dialog box; the second snip is what you should have.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-sysresvmarkactive.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-sysresvactive.jpg
    5) Now put a Windows 7 / Vista full installer DVD or a created repair disk into the Optical Disk Drive (ODD) and restart the PC, at the BIOS select the ODD as the first boot device and run the 3 separate startup repairs with a system restart between each repair to create the boot files needed to start the dual boot to the "System Reserved" partition; information on the entire process can be viewed at these tutorials below.

    Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times

    How to Run a Startup Repair in Windows 7
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-bootvista.jpg
    6) One last step; you will have to use EasyBCD from within Vista / Windows 7 to add an entry for XP to the Windows boot (dual boot) menu to get back to XP but that's the easiest part of this process.
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-bootxp.jpg
    System Reserved : Create Using Disk Management-xpadd.jpg
    Enjoy :)





  1. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #1

    I recognize some of the roles the system reserved partition performances. However, the F8 Recovery function role has puzzled me since I've been unable to find evidence of it on the partition. I wonder if it is part of winload.exe on the Boot/OS partition. I was thinking that winload.exe may intercept the F8 key and offer the alternate boot options before you see the full Windows 7 splash screen. If you opt for the system repair option then Winre.wim (160MB+) resides in the hidden recovery folder, c:\Recovery.
    I'd be interested in your views.

    PS: I've been "beaten up" over it's support so this question is just for me to clarify the F8 role.
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  2. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #2

    I don't have a definitive answer but I believe the entry on the F8 menu is just an in-built link within the contents of the SysResv partition to WinRE that resides within the Windows 7 C:\Recovery as you say; maybe someone like gregrocker would have a better explanation.
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  3.    #3

    I have only found Repair My Computer on F8 Advanced Boot Tools menu when the System Reserved partition exists.

    Some factory OEM are now placing Factory Recovery on the F8 Repair My Computer menu, but only when SysReserved exists.

    I cannot explain yet why the file doesn't seem to exist on the 100mb.
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  4. Posts : 9
    window 7 starter
       #4

    I tried it but it didnt work on win 7 starter,, any sugesstions?? please,,,,
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  5. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #5

    ufie89 said:
    I tried it but it didnt work on win 7 starter,, any sugesstions?? please,,,,
    Are you still able to start your Windows starter; if not let me know and I'll help get you running again?

    If you are able to start Windows, please post a snip of disk management so I can see what you have so far, have a look at this info below.
       Information

    In the Windows start menu right click computer and click manage, in the left pane of the "Computer Management" window that opens click disk management and post a snip of that.

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  6. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #6

    gregrocker said:
    I have only found Repair My Computer on F8 Advanced Boot Tools menu when the System Reserved partition exists.

    Some factory OEM are now placing Factory Recovery on the F8 Repair My Computer menu, but only when SysReserved exists.

    I cannot explain yet why the file doesn't seem to exist on the 100mb.
    Acer have been adding the factory recovery option for some time. My question is still unanswered. I know the REAgentC (reagentc /? from elevated cmd) allows users to select another scan code, irrespective of the 100MB partition, to go to their own copy of Winre.
    So what is special about the 100MB sys reserved, F8 scan code in going to the Winre which lives on c:\recovery? Is it an additional entry within the BCD on the 100MB partition.
    If you dispense with the 100MB partition there must be a way to restore the F8 windows recovery function.
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  7. Posts : 240
    Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP
       #7

    Very short explanation for the dependence F8 (Advanced Boot Options) -> 'Repair my computer':

    The normal Windows 7 loader entry in the BCD must have a special "Recovery Sequence" item that links to another Windows 7 loader entry which is the 'Recovery loader' entry.
    The 'Recovery loader' entry is also special because it uses 'Ramdisk options' to load WinRE.wim with the help of boot.sdi.
    WinRE.wim and boot.sdi can be placed anywhere on disk (any partition) but usually they are placed in a hidden \Recovery\{GUID} folder.

    I have posted here Windows 7 boot some images and explanations on BCD entries created by standard Windows 7 Ultimate installation to VHD but the principle is the same if it would be a normal Windows 7 installation.

    The topic seems rather complex and an extended explanation with images and text on dependencies of loader -> recovery loader (+ramdisk options) should be done.
    I have already prepared the 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 recovery files (winre.wim+boot.sdi - size is about 160MB) and uploaded them to MediaFire but maybe this forum would be a better place and maybe a tutorial "How to install/create/repair a missing 'Repair my computer' on F8 (Advanced boot options)." would do?

    Any suggestions?
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  8. mjf
    Posts : 5,969
    Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
       #8

    Boyans,
    Thanks for the explanation.
    One of the forum's members knowledgeable in this area gave the simple instructions to use winre.wim & boot.sdi using a different scan code to F8 and in another location. (using REAgentC)
    Add winre scancode
    When you get rid of the 100MB sys reserved and the Boot folder/BCD becomes part of the Windows 7, system partition there may be a simple BCD edit to enable the usual F8 function.
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  9. Posts : 240
    Win 8 RP, Win 7, XP
       #9

    mjf,

    Thanks for the link.
    It seems that reagentc.exe can create the necessary BCD entries so a normal user isn't forced to go to details and dependencies.

    To sum up - all that is needed for having 'Repair my computer' on F8 is:
    1. copy winre.wim + boot.sdi to \Recovery folder,
    2. use reagentc.exe to create the needed BCD entries.

    Simple and quick solution!

    Still open - what if I don't have winre.wim+boot.sdi - extracting/creating them from WindowsPE is time & resource consuming - I would prefer downloading them from a trusted source...
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