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Windows 7: Windows 7 Installation - Transfer to a New Computer

11 Apr 2015   #770
dsa44

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Thank you for that. I will do a sysprep after a full image backup, but was just trying to get my brain wrapped around the differences, really as an intellectual exercise. (Back in the day, I remember removing items from the device manager before a mb swap.)
I suppose one big thing is that the repair option seems to be able to run only from within a booted windows desktop, so one would have to gamble that the system would even be able to get to the desktop after replacing the mb me thinks.
And just to verify, there would not really be a need to first run the "easy transfer wizard" since theoretically everything should stay intact.
Cheers, DSA


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11 Apr 2015   #771
Kari

 

Just remember, and this is quite important: if you have an OEM license you might get re-activation issues. The Sysprep removes all activation data and Windows needs to be re-activated.

With a retail license this is not an issue, for users of an OEM license I want to remind about this, the quote from the tutorial:

Quote:
warning   Warning
Using this method causes Windows 7 to lose all activation information, and it needs to be reactivated afterwards. If your Windows 7 is an OEM version, you might not be able to reactivate it, at least not without phone activation option.
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12 Apr 2015   #772
dsa44

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

I can reactivate with MS. Thx
2 last questions.

First, my system was setup as a dual boot, xp and win7, with win7 the default. So when pc boots, it goes straight into win7 as default after lingering a few seconds on the dual boot menu. Can I still just follow the sysprep guide once both drives are hooked into new mb? Or do I need to do something to the dual boot? ( I really don't plan on going back into xp, but that drive has lots of linked data from win7) I attached an image of my system drives. C: drive Disk 1 is the Win7 and D: drive Disk 0 is the XP.

Second regards AHCI mode. My older motherboard is just plain ide. I know one cannot just change the bios from ide to AHCI as win7 will blue-screen. But after running sysprep and plugging into new MB, can I set the new MB to AHCI mode on first boot and let win7 reconfigure for such? I guess there is some improvement overall with AHCI and ssd's over plain ide mode.
Thanks again.


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12 Apr 2015   #773
Kari

 

The Disk0 (XP disk) will be not affected in any way, your dual boot should work as before also after the sysprep. If any dual boot issues occur, you can always create a new dual boot menu with BCDEDIT. A worst possible scenario is that the dual boot is gone but all the content of disk0 is still there and can be accessed.

Switching to AHCI should also work without any issues. Sysprep and shut down, replace the motherboard, on first boot go to BIOS and change to AHCI, let machine boot normally.
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13 Apr 2015   #774
Robotu

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

"Moving or copying a Windows image to a different computer without running sysprep /generalize is not supported."

Actually, i have done that once (without even knowing at that time about sysprep), and moreover, it was through an eSATA connection.
There are many things that "can't be done" )), but wich in practice are very well to be done (and also the opposite...)! Other exemples: a laptop that officially "cannot boot" through PCMCIA or ExpressCard... that actually boot it..., a laptop that officially "can not have or recognize" (even on the website of the chipset manufacturer...) more than 4gb of ddr2 RAM... that actually is very well with 8gb ddr2..., and so on.
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13 Apr 2015   #775
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Robotu View Post
Actually, i have done that once (without even knowing at that time about sysprep), and moreover, it was through an eSATA connection.
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In my opinion I already explained how it is. This from my earlier post just a few days ago:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Before trying to answer your question, look what Microsoft has to say about it. This quote from the very beginning of this tutorial:

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To start, a warning from Microsoft:

Note   Note
Important

You must use the Sysprep /generalize command to generalize a complete Windows installation before you can use the installation for deployment to a new computer, whether you use imaging, hard disk duplication, or another method. Moving or copying a Windows image to a different computer without running the Sysprep /generalize command is not supported.
OK, let's forget the Microsoft's way to use the words "You must". It's just their way to tell you that this is the tested, working way to do this and that they recommend using it.

That being said, any a bit more advanced geek can remove all hardware related information manually, not needing Sysprep or any third party tools. In addition, sometimes the move of the Windows system hard disk to another PC or changing a motherboard simply works without any whatsoever issues.
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13 Apr 2015   #776
dsa44

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
The Disk0 (XP disk) will be not affected in any way, your dual boot should work as before also after the sysprep. If any dual boot issues occur, you can always create a new dual boot menu with BCDEDIT. A worst possible scenario is that the dual boot is gone but all the content of disk0 is still there and can be accessed.

Switching to AHCI should also work without any issues. Sysprep and shut down, replace the motherboard, on first boot go to BIOS and change to AHCI, let machine boot normally.

Well sysprep completed fine. Swapped mb, rebooted with ahci mode, got the boot menu, hit windows 7 and got error.
Windows failed to load because the kernel is missing or corrupt.
File: /windows/system32/ntoskrnl.exe

It then suggests to load the install disk and "repair your computer"

Tried it again changing back to ide mode in the bios and same thing happened.

Anything else I can try??

Thx
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13 Apr 2015   #777
Kari

 

Did you try the repair?
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13 Apr 2015   #778
dsa44

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Did you try the repair?
Trying it now....
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13 Apr 2015   #779
dsa44

Windows 7 Ultimate X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsa44 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Did you try the repair?
Trying it now....
No good, even tried the repair in ide mode and ahci mode. Keeps saying ....ntoskrnl.exe..... kernel missing or corrupt.
I think I will try to restore the system backup image, then just try to reboot and see what happens, unless you can think of anything else.....
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