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Windows 7: Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 into a Installation DVD or ISO File

28 Feb 2011   #110
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
The slipstreamed installation ISO didn't work with my current installation either when trying to do a repair install. I suspect Windows Updates as being the culprit.
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@ Brink:

Hello again. I have to ask you about post #66 (& #65) in this thread (also see the quote above) over the test you performed and your result. I think the light came on in my head and I am now making the mental connection on why you did what you did with this threads tutorial modification. Please clarify me if I am incorrect (This may be a dumb moment for me.), but you indicate that the 'Windows Updates' may be the 'culprit' over the test you performed regarding my questions and concerns in my prior post(s).

Okay, so if I were to integrate any additional Windows Updates into the slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1, I may be able to overcome your results when performing a Windows upgrade repair instead of receiving the message (per your clipping in post #66) stating, "The following issues are preventing Windows from upgrading. Cancel the upgrade, complete each task, and then restart the upgrade to continue." Your current version of Windows is more recent than the version you are trying to upgrade to. Windows cannot complete the upgrade..."???

In other words, you created this amended tutorial to accomodate more Windows Updates to the slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 so a Windows upgrade repair could continue to completion with having any issues during the upgrade repair process (like the one you had during your test as a Windows upgrade repair)?

So basically, it is a never ending battle? (Please, no disrespect! It is not your fault at all! You're here to help me! Thank you! It is just the nature of the situation!) So for every Windows Update that is installed that modernizes or increases my installed version/build of Windows 7 SP1; I have to continually update my previously created slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 so the Windows upgrade repair performs successfully with my installed Windows 7 SP1 (to keep ahead of the curve so the 'current version of Windows is *NOT* more recent than the version you are trying to upgrade to')? Am I correct to say this?

Next question: So what Windows Updates (using their standalone MSU installation files) do I need to add to my already slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 to keep ahead of the curve? Is this the answer? Go to my Windows Update History and all the Windows Updates that have installed *AFTER* my installed Windows Update for 'Windows 7 Service Pack 1 for x64-based Systems (KB976932)' I would add those Windows Updates to my slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1? Am I correct here too?

Please reply.

Thank you!


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28 Feb 2011   #111
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef View Post
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Oh, no. Out target is everyone. It just makes it easier to follow and use when made easy. That's all.

I look forward to seeing the tutorial if you would like to create it.
Okie dokie then, I'll see what I can whip up for you guys. I can also provide some links to helpful articles I read at Microsoft while I was researching it, and ultimately created the disc. Is a new thread for this a good idea, Shawn?

Hello David, click this link to make an actual tutorial of it.
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28 Feb 2011   #112
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Hello Montecarlo,

Answers inline below.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by montecarlo1987 View Post
Okay, so if I were to integrate any additional Windows Updates into the slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1, I may be able to overcome your results when performing a Windows upgrade repair instead of receiving the message (per your clipping in post #66) stating, "The following issues are preventing Windows from upgrading. Cancel the upgrade, complete each task, and then restart the upgrade to continue." Your current version of Windows is more recent than the version you are trying to upgrade to. Windows cannot complete the upgrade..."???
It really depends on how Windows 7 was installed originally on whether or not the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 may be able to do a repair install or not. I find that you have the highest chance of being able to do a repair install if you do a clean install of Windows 7 again with the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 instead of trying to do a repair install on a retail Windows 7 installation that has had SP1 installed separately. Plus, you have the newer Windows Updates to take in consideration as well.
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In other words, you created this amended tutorial to accomodate more Windows Updates to the slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 so a Windows upgrade repair could continue to completion with having any issues during the upgrade repair process (like the one you had during your test as a Windows upgrade repair)?
The main purpose was to allow people to be able to add new Windows Updates to a Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 installation DVD, ISO, or USB that they already created instead of having to start completely over. This way if they ever had to do a clean install of Windows 7, they will be able to do so with all the Windows Updates they added already installed as well. In theory, with all new Windows Updates added to the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 installation DVD, ISO, or USB since doing a clean install with it, you should be able to do a repair install with it.

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So basically, it is a never ending battle? (Please, no disrespect! It is not your fault at all! You're here to help me! Thank you! It is just the nature of the situation!) So for every Windows Update that is installed that modernizes or increases my installed version/build of Windows 7 SP1; I have to continually update my previously created slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 so the Windows upgrade repair performs successfully with my installed Windows 7 SP1 (to keep ahead of the curve so the 'current version of Windows is *NOT* more recent than the version you are trying to upgrade to')? Am I correct to say this?
Unfortunately yes. It will be a never ending job to keep the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 installation DVD, ISO, or USB updated with new Windows Updates when they are released every second Tuesday of each month. At least you will not have to start completely over each time a update is realed though.

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Next question: So what Windows Updates (using their standalone MSU installation files) do I need to add to my already slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 to keep ahead of the curve? Is this the answer? Go to my Windows Update History and all the Windows Updates that have installed *AFTER* my installed Windows Update for 'Windows 7 Service Pack 1 for x64-based Systems (KB976932)' I would add those Windows Updates to my slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1? Am I correct here too?
I find it easier to know what Windows Updates to add afterwards if you did a clean install of Windows 7 again with the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1. Otherwise it's pretty much a crap shoot as to what to add with an existing retail Windows 7 installation that has had SP1 manually installed. The best guess would be anything after SP1 was installed though.

This really depends on what you want to use the Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 installation DVD, ISO, or USB for.

If your goal is to hopefully be able to use it to do a repair install with if needed, then you will need to add all Windows Updates to it.

If your goal is to use it to do a clean install and/or boot to System Recovery Options with it, then you could get away with only adding Windows Updates that you do not want to have to reinstall again through Windows Updates after a clean install.
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28 Feb 2011   #113
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Here I don't worry as much about any updates seen from this time on if I end up needing to perform a clean install. Using a usb install key or dvd with the SP1 integrated saves a great of time waiting for each and every update plus a separate install of the service pack.

Once installed with SP1 included some 15+ subsequent updates would be a consideration if you take notes on which ones come out from this time forward for subsequent integration. I just went through a laptop with the previous version where no SPs were included in the factory preinstall to see those added. I'll take the SP1 integrated the way it is and worry about a few others later!

Meanwhile I compared on disk sizes once the 64bit went onto a 16g flash drive showing the 32bit at 2.75gb while the 64bit ended with 3.74gb. That was the exact same size as what was seen as available drive space on a reformatted drive.

Plus the RT Seven Lite might also need to reserve a small amount of space temporarily as part of the process explaining why you need an 8gb drive over a smaller 4gb for the 64bit. Despite the hinderance of the error I mentioned before for this beta each time the write to disk has started and finished the results have been found positive showing a high degree of reliability in the plus side. The finished version will be something to look forward to!
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28 Feb 2011   #114
David Ben Yosef

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
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Well, if your target audience is noobs, then this method is definately the way to go. The WAIK is for advanced users. However, the finished product is simply amazing.
Not all of the target audience are noobs - don't forget the advanced users who are just lazy
I know that not everyone at this forum are noobs. The comment you quoted was in reference to Shawns post. He said that his method, as opposed to mine, would be preferred by noobs.....and I merely agreed.

So I'm going to write up a tut for the WAIK method. However, it won't be for noobs at all. There's some "hard coding" involved with this method, and prior knowledge of HTML, and C++ is a prerequiste. It will take some time to write it up, but I think everyone will like it. This method allows you to make a completely unattended installation disc, and also allows you to apply just about any settings you want right at installation. It's actually pretty awesome.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I'm not entirely sure what you mean about not using 3rd party tools.
What I meant about "third party software" is that you don't have to use any software other than Microsoft. I've never really liked the idea of depending on software other than Microsoft to compile my operating system's installation disc. However, a good CD/DVD burner program is neccesary. I happen to use Nero 7 Premium.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello David, click this link to make an actual tutorial of it.
I'm not really sure why you posted that link. I was planning on using the exact same format for the tut that Shawn uses, if that's why you posted it?
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28 Feb 2011   #115
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

David,

I look forward to reading your tutorial when it's finished. If you need any help or have any question on doing it, then please just send be a PM. I'll be happy to help.
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28 Feb 2011   #116
David Ben Yosef

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
David,

I look forward to reading your tutorial when it's finished. If you need any help or have any question on doing it, then please just send be a PM. I'll be happy to help.
Alrighty then, thanks for the offer, I'll keep that in mind.
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28 Feb 2011   #117
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

@ Brink:

Hello Brink! Thank you for your time and cooperation in answering my questions in detail! I absolutely appreciate this! )

In summary, it will be *always risky* for a successful Windows upgrade repair because of the installed version/build is newer than the one you are trying to upgrade issue appearing, but there are measures a user can perform to try to overcome (lessen the chance of) a Windows upgrade repair denial using slipstreaming techniques with the latest Windows updates.

There is one final point I want to inquire about and I need your response please...

Even using a Microsoft factory purchased DVD genuine copy that has Windows 7 SP1 integrated *may* have the *same* issues if say I plan to use this Microsoft factory DVD genuine copy to do a repair install, I still could possibly end up not being able to complete a Windows upgrade repair as well because of the installed version/build is newer than the one you are trying to upgrade issue, correct? Given:
1. The Microsoft factory DVD genuine copy of Windows 7 SP1 was initially used as the install on the Windows 7 SP1 system.
2. If *new* Windows Updates have *already* been installed on the installed Windows 7 SP1 system since the initial installation of Windows 7 SP1.
I could still have issues with a Windows upgrade repair because of the installed version/build is newer than the one you are trying to upgrade issue? Correct?

Bottom line: *It doesn't matter* if you use your created slipsteamed DVD of Windows 7 SP1 (*Note: Regardless of adding any more new Windows Updates or not.) -or- a Microsoft factory purchased DVD genuine copy that has Windows 7 SP1 integrated, you *may still* have issues completing the Widows upgrade repair process because of the installed version/build is newer than the one you are trying to upgrade issue? Correct?

I will let my questions regarding this topic rest here.

Please reply.

Thanks again!!!
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01 Mar 2011   #118
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Montecarlo,

Correct. Anytime new Windows Updates are installed, there is a chance of not being able to do a repair install with the same installation disc. This all just depends on what the Windows Updates changed or updated though.
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01 Mar 2011   #119
montecarlo1987

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 & Windows 8 & 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

@ Brink:

Thank you for all your help and guidance!!! I fully understand now!!!
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