Doesn't work on the following PC:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
2GB DDR2 RAM
GeForce 8800 GT

Causes this error (attached)


Works fine on the PC in my specs though... Odd... Same build number of MSN and same OS version...

Apparently if you turn on and use the compatibility mode prior to removing the watermark, it continues to work fine. If you remove the watermark prior to using the compatibility mode, it'll crash out.

Both systems are using the same watermark-removal script with the same OS and MSN build, the only thing that differs is the order in which things were done. Maybe that'll help other people get this working properly.

Also, the 64-bit version of watermark removal doesn't cause the problems...

It works for me, but I got used to the new way now. Just keep your mouse for a few seconds on the icon and the you can see 2 windows, the "main" window and the contacts window. So to close the program you click the X on the "main Window".

Pardon the necrobump, but since I started using Win7 as my OS with the RC's release, I've noticed the messenger annoyance myself. It kinda defeats the purpose of the taskbar to have dormant programs cluttering it up (that's the tray's purpose!!), and I was looking for just this solution via Google.

I just don't think this is a solution, though; it's merely a dirty hack to prevent Messenger from even knowing it's running on Win7. Isn't there some setting that can be changed? I'd think Microsoft would like to know about this kind of inconvenience!

What is needed is an option inside WLM to the effect of "Minimize/close WLM to system notification area" which could then allow the older behavior without the need for a "hack" like compatibility mode.

I'm personally really dissapointed with this new behavior; I think the Live team missed the memo about the Superbar being designed to be more intuitive and less cluttered... The new behavior looks more like a bug than a feature, and many users will see it as an annoyance.

I think the biggest problem is that the Beta and RC phases aren't being tested with the "common" demographic; Is the the 68-year-old grandfather that knows very little about computers going to try the beta? Unlikely. This (common) demographic is one of the ones that have the most trouble understanding computers, yet use applications like WLM most often to keep in touch with friends and family.

The Live team willingly decided to make their application appear to "misbehave", which will be overly confusing to people that don't follow the latest technology. Perhaps they'll hear the outcry of complaints (or more likely, will but won't care) but until then, it'll be up to us, the "power users", to "fix" this oddity for them.

Just because everyone has gotten accustomed to throwing everything in the system tray doesn't mean that MS messed up on how they're developing their programs.

The changes in Live fit in with the rest of the ideas behind windows 7.

Primarily being : Once place for everything regarding a program.

If you introduce both a system tray and a task bar item for the same item, you're introducing clutter. All programs should behave the same in order to reduce confusion. That's been their ideology through out the development of windows 7.

If you use Live all the time, having it on the taskbar shouldn't be a problem, and if you don't use it all the time, then you really shouldn't have it pinned anyway.

I have another solution to this that I am currently using.

If you download the 8.1 version from this page:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

You can install messenger and it will function properly with the tray icon and no taskbar issues by default.

The latest version of messenger has the taskbar issue because of a change in the taskbar in 7 that vista did not have thus running the latest messenger in vista compatibility corrects it.