Emergency Kit - save your files from a dead OS

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    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #120

    Yep well two tries in now and I have tried the superuser panel to say who I am and then it calls my machine john- L550 Satellite then wants me to put in a name???? and then the password I used 1234 as Wolfgang suggested and then it is telling me it is crashed. It wants to send an error report too what good that is I have no idea and am coming to the end of my patience.

    I even used another SSD a newer one set as unallocated. I have some older SATA 5400 spinners I could try in case the SSD system will not work but will be left a with a snail pace machine

    I am going to try once more only using auto login maybe I can change that later.

    I am using MATE 17.3 and wondering if I should go back and use the 32bit version but it seems a shame as I have 8GB RAM on board.

    I just really dislike things beating me like this
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  2. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #121

    I've used a ssd for Mint Mate 17.1 since the beginning it works fine

    Zorin OS - Home
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  3. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #122

    Ok Mike I have got it going though on a 5400 spinner from the same stick I was using for the SSD.

    I have downloaded the 14 version to see if I can install that to a SSD at least the system seems to be working reasonably fast though the SSD would be good.

    Just a matter of curiousity did you use an unallocated SSD or one formatted FAT32?? The last two I tried were again unallocated after a clean all on the SanDisk (120GB) and a straight clean on the Samsung 840 EVO (240GB)
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    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #123

    Unallocated however it came from crucial I did nothing to it prior to loading linux on it
    The flash media was the only thing fat32 or device defaults and linux universal usb installer did the rest with the linux iso.
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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #124

    I have the LM 17.3 64bit here as well but went with the LM Debian 17.2 Cinnamon 64bit and didn't have any problems. I also split up while I still have some San Disk sticks here I have been staying with the Kingston Data Travelers and even use key chain size 8gb flash drives for Recovery Drives for W10 as well as seeing a small 13gb partition for LM Debian at the back end of the 128gb size flash drive. Have another Kingston 32gb I picked up about 4-5yrs. back I carry as well with a distro physically installed as well to see a live data recovery stick made up.

    Since the SSDs seem to be flopping on you if it hasn't been from a corrupt download you might want to give that a try. Later you simply hit the F key for the boot device menu to select the USB HHD option in order to boot live from the flash drive. Remember however Windows can not see a second partition on anything usb where the distro is custom installed to and seen as the "mount point /", You have to edit the partition information once LM is on to make sure that is designated to the Linux volume in order to point Grub in the right direction. That could be part of the problem being seen with the SSD attempts since all Linux distro have that one commonality as far as getting that correct.
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    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #125

    Ok Night Hawk mate I bought a brand new Maxell stick and have finally got it to stick to a Samsung 850 EVO but I had to use the automatic login because every time I have used a password apart form the spinner it just doesn't recognised the password I set.

    Now all I need to do is set the login for a password as I see it asks for a password for software etc. I would like to be able to do that because my email opens without wanting a password. But at least I haven't got to go looking for a 7200 spinner which was going to be my next move after burning bootable ISO DVD with ImgBurn - unless I give that a try with with one of the other SSD's - it would be an interesting exercise I suppose as I am not really a fan of booting from sticks to be honest.

    Hey but thanks for yours and everyone else's patience it has been a bit of a test to say the least \.
    John
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  7. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #126

    Every once in a while I enter a password when linux is actually asking for a user name
    I blame the login window for that plus me not noticing what linux is asking to be entered
    Really my bad I get used to just entering a password on a login window in windows
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  8. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #127

    Yes That is what got me entering your name then the john and my machine brand came up auto and then there wa a third john there and the two passwords underneath. So having set the login passwords all day I picked the auto login and I just want to get the login screen back with the password. Primarily so I can boot up and have no one else but me accessing my emails but there are endless YouTubes and it is so hard to follow soemone who goes so fast and not quite wat I want to know.

    Am trying a VM machine on my main laptop right now to see what luck I have there.
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  9. Posts : 8,375
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
       #128

    What I find here is having the auto login set to go while for every little thing you may get a prompt for entering the password over and over acting much like a password protected firewall or UAC only in Linux. I never have any distro being looked at as well as the fewer flavors you can actually use for live data recovery set to require a password when first seeing the distro boot since that would automatically defeat the purpose of making up a live stick that has seen a custom install as the fresh download itself is only run in a live demo mode until the physical install or VM install takes place.

    Without any installation to keep in demo mode you won't have any password concerns at all. You just can't install things you would want to try since that would require the physical install and password being assigned This is why ubuntu as well as LM, Knoppix live for dvd, and only a couple of others will actually work for data recovery due to seeing a demo mode which besides Knoppix will also see the option to install. Here's some information on that one and why it was one of the first distros actually to be found to work well for live recovery.

    KNOPPIX is a bootable disc with a collection of GNU/Linux software, automatic hardware detection, and support for many graphics cards, sound cards, SCSI and USB devices and other peripherals. KNOPPIX can be used as a Linux demo, educational disc, rescue system, or adapted and used as a platform for commercial software product demos. It is not necessary to install anything on a hard disk. Due to on-the-fly decompression, the disc can have up to 10 GB of executable software installed on it.
    The page there just saw an update when going to look up the different articles about Knoppix. DistroWatch.com: KNOPPIX

    How-To-Geek has a blog on how to use the other smaller popular or previously much more popular distro for the same purpose. Recover Data Like a Forensics Expert Using an Ubuntu Live CD

    Someone also made a Youtube clip on how Linux Mint Debian also seeing the 17.3 release can be used for backup and recovery. And the Debian package is typically loaded up with more options for apps then the regular LM if you are wanting more. The video shows how that is done for things in Li

    "an error occurred try again later"

    When that trying to use the YT button that never seems to work where I generally prefer to simply provide a direct link to a clip! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Mv8zpKT7s

    A review on the LMDE from 2014 is seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXlPGxiBOk
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 26 Jan 2016 at 03:09. Reason: Video clip correction
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  10. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #129

    What I find here is having the auto login set to go while for every little thing you may get a prompt for entering the password over and over acting much like a password protected firewall or UAC only in Linux.
    OK mate yes that is exactly what is happening with the software my only concern is opening emails really.
    So that is the only reason I would have liked the login page first up but no bother I'll get there somehow. I haven't had chance to see your links yet as I have just set up a VM machine with Linux on my main laptop and it does have the password for anything and a screen that sits in the middle of my 27" like a small saucer LOL!!
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