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Windows 7: NVIDIA Drivers - Avoid Problems

21 Feb 2015   #50

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider

The screen going black after the loading Windows notification has been around for quite awhile. When you delete the driver folder in C:/Nvidia/Display Drivers, those are the drivers you have removed from your system. Checking the clean install box during the installation process is supposed to remove all left over drivers. You have to have a card capable of a 4K display. According to your System Specs, you have a GTX 670. I have a 4 GB SC 670 and the max display resolution is, from Nvidia's web site
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22 Feb 2015   #51

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit

GeForce GTX 670 | Specifications | GeForce

Spec tab def does show it is capable of 4K (naturally using the right connector and the driver to make it so). And thus why I want the updated driver.

I upgraded ASUS mobo with 1st bios that "works better with Windows 8" this evening (although I NEVER plan to get 8). I didn't get the latest 2014 beta because all that is new is it allows for is 16GBX8 RAM install, and at 300 dollars plus a stick who can afford But I figure a newer BIOS cannot hurt. I will wait until next weekend and try again perhaps. When my 4th panel broke a year ago I left the cable just dangling still attached to the card. Who knows...maybe that wigged the install. Anyway excess cable detached. When I try again I'll update again. Checked the clean install..followed all the steps. YEs I saw it has been around for a while---too bad---think it wouldn't have to be this hard. It wasn't a few to 3 years back.

edit--and oh if I just canno get the driver updated or the card ends up not supporting 4K then I am not adverse to going back to AMD driver and a Radeon R9 290X. And I am not a gamer so dont require the highest performance.
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22 Feb 2015   #52

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
tried again

Ok I was bored so I tried again since removing the cable and updating the mobo BIOS. Result is exactly the same. 2 monitors black and the primary is grey and does nothing after the windows splash screen. Every time I have to attempt to reboot 5 times before it offers to let me do a startup repair which always works after about 15 min. I was smart this time around and did some critical update install right before so it wouldn't pick a repair point before yesterday when I made some changes.

So things back to my humming along and splendid normal 3 monitor blazing away. No complaints. I just want that latest Nvidia driver installed and can't make it happen !

WOULD IT HELP TO>>>> 1) I noticed display fusion service running. Should I make sure this is stopped before doing the process ? 2) Would it help to totally unplug the other 2 monitors from the card when attempting the update--or would it matter ?

Thanks in advance ! So scratching my head here.
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24 Feb 2015   #53

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit

Well possibly no one's looking anymore...but just in case...

Last night I successfully upgraded the vbios of the EVGA GTX 670 card.

Today after work I used display driver uninstaller used in safe mode. Took additional steps of unplugging ethernet cable, unplugging 2 of the monitors, making sure displayfusion svc was stopped--but I guess safe mode would have taken care of that. I even uninstalled the one microsoft update (KB3004394) that is supposedly known to cause this problem under windows 8...thought I'd give a shot.

As in all other tries the latest Nvidia driver did install. But with a slightly different result this time. With one monitor, instead of getting stuck on grey after the Windows 7 splash screen it just went to pure black and power off.

I plugged everything back in. I was able to do a boot to safe and revert back in time straight away instead of having to reboot 5 times to force a startup repair--so learned one thing--quickly making sure numlock is off on the keyboard lets one go ahead and actually select things from the start windows normal, start in safe mode, etc screen.

And done that way is TONS quicker than the forced way..I will venture to say 3 minutes rather than 30.

So once again I am back to my perfectly acceptable for now 3 monitor setup in the configuration I like...albeit with the 3.11 driver still. LOL It has to be something simple right...? Or maybe Nvidias latest driver installs really are just FUBAR....

I am going to post on the DDU section of Nvidia forums as well but I know the author will want event logs and such--totally forgot to do that before I startup repaired. edit--guess the roll back dont matter there--I still have events logged for the latest failed attempts.

Any other ideas before I just say give and forget about it until I just do a totally new build (likely a year plus after Windows 10 is stable).
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26 Feb 2015   #54

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit

Took the additional steps of unplugging a bunch of USB enabled devices and for grins let the driver update from windows update. It promptly gave an error code. But when I looked in Nvidia panel and GPU-Z the new update was listed. However on re-boot, SAME THING, nothing past windows splash screen. Did the usual restart repair.

BUT this time my Sound has totally whacked out. After plugging all back in and even deleting and re installing Roland Octacapture...NOTHING...just says cannot play testtone---

Now it will be time to let Macrium Reflect do a system image restore from several weeks ago, I think of just C drive and hopefully I will have my sound back. I will just leave well enough alone I guess. I've never had such problems after only wanting to update a graphics driver !
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26 Feb 2015   #55

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 6.1 Build 7601 (SP1)

I haven't followed your steps to-the-letter but regarding the problem of "where's this nvidia driver coming from?" it is likely the Driver Store. I have had good luck using DriverStore Explorer to clean-out old junk I know I don't want to see any more. I believe this is where Windows stores 3rd party drivers and all "roll-back" items.

Another useful tool is DriverView from Nirsoft which will show you exactly what is actually running on your system.
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26 Feb 2015   #56

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit

I will remember to check in to those. For now, this evening I was able to successfully run Macrium Reflect free version last image I backed up 3 weeks ago. After telling the rescue media where a USB3 driver folder was it went smoothly...less than 38 minutes and I'm back to exactly where I was when I started down the slippery slope.

Glad my sound is back. I use an Octacapture card with all analog outs to a 5.1 input on a Yamaha receiver. A steallar setup that I hated when I hosed it last night--to the point of staying up until 1 AM trying to fix it !
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26 Feb 2015   #57

windows 7 Professional 64 Bit

Wait I just thought of something--Essenbee you said the card has to be capable of 4K...I figured that was just to run the resoultion at 4K on a 4K panel..BUT maybe it means----to even install the driver successfully..... hmmmm... And you are likely right about the card ultimately not being capable to do 4K rez----The specs I saw were for GeForce tricked out "reference" card. My lowly card has only 2MB Video Ram compared to the reference which had 5.

But then again I was on A AMD forum the other night and I see R 9 290X owners are having the EXACT same problems with stuck windows boots. Maybe 4K is just not ready for prime time quite yet unless EVERYTHING in the system is new.
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27 Feb 2015   #58

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider

The specs I quoted in that post came from the EVGA Web Site for your card. However, this tutorial was not really written for people in your circumstances. I wrote it for people who were having driver problems because of leftover drivers and driver crashes because of it. It has helped quite a few people in those circumstances. But, it is not a bad idea to install drivers that way in any case. There are a lot of drivers in the 'Express Install' package that few people use and need. In some of those cases, the Nvidia drivers conflict with the Motherboard drivers too. You have Audio and HDMI drivers in your Motherboard drivers. Two sets can conflict with each other and cause other problems. The intent is a clean install and reducing the possibility of driver conflicts. It does not sound as though that is the problem you are experiencing. I do know there are a lot of people running 4K monitors. So, it can be done. Your particular problem, I have no idea about or why, assuming your card is capable of running 4K. 2 GB of Vram will get eaten up pretty fast running 4K, I would think.
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27 Feb 2015   #59

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10

Hmm regarding NVidia drivers I have just had a an interesting experience with my new laptop in that Asus support advised me to download drivers for the GTX 860M and after five different drivers all said there was no such device on board.

Now I happened to be able to get onto the Asus support site in Sydney and within an hour my GPU is functional and all because the drivers for the GPU from NVidia and the global Asus support site were not what was needed and the driver had to come through an Asus support site did not know about and not the one that one can Google!!

It turns out that this machine was made in the US and probably a refurbished one and the fellow I spoke to was so knowledgeable it reaffirmed my faith in Asus. Mind you it took three months of trying before the fix could be applied!!

So it seems that NVidia drivers are not the same for any old machine(I mean at least Asus ones)
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