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Windows 7: ReadyBoost - Setup and Use

14 May 2010   #40
chuckbam

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

"But what are you guys trying to accomplish."

I am interested in how not why


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Maybe I did not get it. But what are you guys trying to accomplish. Ready Boost was intended to overcome the (access) speed limitations of the rotating disks by moving the page file from the disk to a fast USB stick. I stress fast meaning sticks that have access times of less than 1ms or alike (rotating disks typically have 15 to 17ms).
If you replace an area of your disk to perform that service, you really only buy the Ready Boost overhead and do not gain an iota. In the case of the SSD you only have to keep the page file on the SSD (against the advice of many "experts") and you have the optimal setup.
Note also that there is really nothing to be gained with Ready Boost with RAM sizes 2GB and larger. E.g. a system with 4GB of RAM will hardly ever produce a page fault under normal use. Exceptional applications such as CAD may differ.



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14 May 2010   #41
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckbam View Post
"But what are you guys trying to accomplish."

I am interested in how not why


Quote:
Maybe I did not get it. But what are you guys trying to accomplish. Ready Boost was intended to overcome the (access) speed limitations of the rotating disks by moving the page file from the disk to a fast USB stick. I stress fast meaning sticks that have access times of less than 1ms or alike (rotating disks typically have 15 to 17ms).
If you replace an area of your disk to perform that service, you really only buy the Ready Boost overhead and do not gain an iota. In the case of the SSD you only have to keep the page file on the SSD (against the advice of many "experts") and you have the optimal setup.
Note also that there is really nothing to be gained with Ready Boost with RAM sizes 2GB and larger. E.g. a system with 4GB of RAM will hardly ever produce a page fault under normal use. Exceptional applications such as CAD may differ.
Interested in what?
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14 May 2010   #42
chuckbam

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chuckbam View Post
"But what are you guys trying to accomplish."

I am interested in how not why


Quote:
Maybe I did not get it. But what are you guys trying to accomplish. Ready Boost was intended to overcome the (access) speed limitations of the rotating disks by moving the page file from the disk to a fast USB stick. I stress fast meaning sticks that have access times of less than 1ms or alike (rotating disks typically have 15 to 17ms).
If you replace an area of your disk to perform that service, you really only buy the Ready Boost overhead and do not gain an iota. In the case of the SSD you only have to keep the page file on the SSD (against the advice of many "experts") and you have the optimal setup.
Note also that there is really nothing to be gained with Ready Boost with RAM sizes 2GB and larger. E.g. a system with 4GB of RAM will hardly ever produce a page fault under normal use. Exceptional applications such as CAD may differ.
Interested in what?
To enable Readyboost on a Win7 OS when it was disabled because of and SSD install. I what to do some benchmarks with it enabled. If you start a thead about the advantages and disadvantages I will be happy to post there. I just would like to know the information on my first post on the subject. If no one knows, that is fine. But there maybe someone who can help me install the service. That seems to be the only component missing. Can we stay on topic?
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14 May 2010   #43
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Can we stay on topic?
Once you climbed down from your tree, I'll give you the answer. It is simple, and if you put your grey cells into action, you may even figure it out yourself.
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14 May 2010   #44
chuckbam

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

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Can we stay on topic?
Once you climbed down from your tree, I'll give you the answer. It is simple, and if you put your grey cells into action, you may even figure it out yourself.
I attempted this regedit and could not boot. I never install a Service before. I think that must be what I need to do.


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\rdyboost
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15 May 2010   #45
Torongo

Windows 7
 
 

Mm, thanks anyways. I differ though, I have three gigs of ram and readyboost speeds me up enormously.

~Joshua~
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15 May 2010   #46
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Torongo View Post
Mm, thanks anyways. I differ though, I have three gigs of ram and readyboost speeds me up enormously.

~Joshua~
Josh, are you sure of that? It is against all logic and experience. You must run very special applications that produce a lot of page faults. What is your average Hard Fault count in the Resource Monitor > Memory tab?
I encounter hard faults only in very special situations - e.g. scanning with SuperAnti Spyware. MSE also produces the odd page fault. In both cases 60% of the memory is unused which makes that very odd.
But if you have none or few page faults, then the page file is not being used and the Ready Boost cannot provide any benefit.
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15 May 2010   #47
Torongo

Windows 7
 
 

I know this makes my previous post look stupid (at least I think it does), but apparently as I count up all the Hard Count thingys from all the services/processes, I have two?

~Joshua~
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15 May 2010   #48
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Torongo View Post
I know this makes my previous post look stupid (at least I think it does), but apparently as I count up all the Hard Count thingys from all the services/processes, I have two?

~Joshua~
That was my point. A file that is not being used (in this case the page file) cannot gain in performance with a faster device - if the device is indeed faster. To make that point, I have compiled some data of two USB sticks as compared to a HDD:

One of my HDDs as base case



One Kingston Date Traveller - note the access time



Another Kingston Datas traveller - and compare to this access time

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15 May 2010   #49
chuckbam

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

What about a SSD drive with USB 3.0?

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