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Windows 7: Dual Boot Installation with Windows 7 and Vista

14 Sep 2009   #50
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Rozsomak View Post
Hi All!
1st time, 1st post here. Nice to see so many helping people!
My issue: I run a vista x64 SP2. I am satisfied with it, it's running flawlessly (more or less).
However I want to try Win 7 desperately. I have a lot of space, so I plan to install Windows 7 on my 2nd hard drive (not Sytem Drive), separately, where I create a partition for the new OS (Win 7). It's a 1 TB Samsung, so space is not an issue, really.

Question:

Do I have to set anything in my BIOS, to have my PC "see" this new booting-option?
Or does it simple detect the new OS on the 2nd HD (when booting)?
As I grasped it'll be an entirely new OS, with a separate boot-sequence.
As I understood, I won't be able to use my existing programs with this method (supposing Vista x64 is sitting on "C" system partition, and Win 7 is on "K" (separate HD): Is it correct?
I really look forward to getting Your reply, and appreciate Your time and dedication!
Thanx in advance!
Hello, Rozsomak (torkosborz ?)
Welcome aboard.
Upon first reading your post, I was concerned that the Samsung 1 TB might be an external USB HDD
and considered a relevant caution.
I see now that it indeed is not, thanks to your detailed profile entries.

I also noticed that, from Hungary, your posting in English was surprisingly well-done,
much better than some college people I've read.

Since your interests seem akin to mine, and the fact that you are an educated man,
I would like to offer a few simple 'corrections' to your post.
This, I would never, ever do, under most ordinary circumstances.
Most people would misinterpret things and become highly offended, given
the internet's impersonal nature.

I gather your post is either:
1. Your native Hungarian, translated to English (Google, for example), or
2. You typed the post in English, as you understand it.

Assuming case 2,
I would like to offer a few 'corrections', intended to teach, not to insult or offend.
Simply to help, with what relevant knowledge I can offer.
English (American), as I understand it.
I believe these forums are about many things 'technical', not just w7...

Firstly, this is a "Google" translation of the above post, English --> Hungarian, to insure your "original" message.
Quote:
Hi all!
1. idő, 1. post itt. Örülök, hogy ilyen sok segítő ember!
My issue: I run a vista x64 SP2. Elégedett vagyok vele, hibátlanul fut (többé-kevésbé).
Ugyanakkor szeretném próbálni Win 7 kétségbeesetten. Nekem van sok hely, ezért azt tervezem, hogy telepítse a Windows 7-én 2. merevlemez (nem Sytem Drive), külön-külön, ha létrehozok egy partíciót, hogy az új operációs rendszer (Win 7). Ez egy 1 TB Samsung, így a rendelkezésre álló hely nem probléma, tényleg.

Kérdés:

Kell-e meg valamit az én BIOS-t, hogy PC-m "lát" az új indítás-opció?
Vagy pedig egyszerűen megtaláljuk az új operációs rendszerét a 2. HD (indításakor)?
Amint megragadtam, hogy lesz egy teljesen új operációs rendszer, egy külön boot-sorrendben.
Ahogy értettem, nem fogom tudni használni a meglévő programokat ezzel a módszerrel (feltételezve Vista x64 ül "C" rendszer partíciót, a Win 7-én "K" (külön HD): Is it correct?
Nagyon várom, hogy egyre Ön válasza, és köszönjük idő és odaadással!
Thanx in advance!
I am not a linguist or anything of the sort.
I previously posted a message to an American, in Hungary, who has the language barrier to deal with,
now that his computer needs repair.
Therefore I appreciate the language difficulties in either direction.

If you're interested, and not offended, we could go to another thread,
and continue from there. Perhaps others will also read. Maybe some college students.

I've made no 'analysis' of Brink's post, since you're in excellent hands there.
My posting is only in reference to your quoted "English words"...

Hope I don't get 'banned' for this -- Mods can always 'delete', if improper.

Chuck R.


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21 Oct 2009   #51
FHSPSU67

Windows 7 Professional and Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Wow, I simply can't believe that I just found this forum, and especially this thread
Now for a question:
I have Win 7 arriving from Amazon next week and hope to create a dual-boot system per this thread. I now have a brand new Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB hard drive and am planning on a clean install. I currently have Vista Ultimate 64-bit installed on my C: drive According to this thread I think I should just push all my other drive letters down and install this new HD as D:.
Amazing, my original question I had was whether to just move my C: Vista HD to D: and do a clean install of Win 7 on my new HD as C:, but I "think" that this thread has educated me enough that I should just go ahead and install my new drive as D:, and the dual-boot process will take care of naming the Win 7 drive as C: whenever I'm using Win 7.

Sorry, I wish I could have organized my post as well as this Site seems to be organized. Absolutely wonderful site and I can say that after only a couple hours!
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21 Oct 2009   #52
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Welcome to SevenForums!! You might want to browse through the extensive tutorial section maintained by our one man tutorial machine, Brink & co. See it -=> Here

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!!
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21 Oct 2009   #53
FHSPSU67

Windows 7 Professional and Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
Welcome to SevenForums!! You might want to browse through the extensive tutorial section maintained by our one man tutorial machine, Brink & co. See it -=> Here

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!!
Thanks, but how do you think I arrived here?
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21 Oct 2009   #54
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

I want to post a pithy remark, but told myself to be good...
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21 Oct 2009   #55
FHSPSU67

Windows 7 Professional and Vista Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Thanks for not destroying me on my first day!
It's nice to find a forum with a sense of humor.
And yes, I did fill out my system info. Thanks for the reminder, though.
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21 Oct 2009   #56
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FHSPSU67 View Post
Thanks for not destroying me on my fist day!


Never!
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24 Oct 2009   #57
Howard Kaikow

Vista
 
 

I do not understand

Quote:
Tip
If you are dual booting with another OS (ex: Vista), then that OS partition may not show up in Computer with a driver letter in Windows 7. You will need to add a drive letter to the OS (ex: Vista) partition in Windows 7 Disk Management for it to show up in Computer with a driver letter.
If I have a PC with Vista installed on the C drive and I create a partition, say, D, in which to install Win 7 (allowing Win 7 to format D), why would not the C drive show up when booted to Win 7?
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24 Oct 2009   #58
Mike B

Dual boot to Vista and Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

The most recent install will show up as the "C" drive. If you had Vista installed on the "C" drive and made a partition "D" for 7, after 7 is installed and booted, 7 would now be your "C" drive and the Vista partition would now show as the "D" drive.

If you booted to Vista, it would then show Vista as the "C" drive and 7 would then be the "D" drive.

It is all explained in the tutorial. It worked that way for me today when I installed 7 on a new drive. When booted to 7, I see the "E" drive as Vista, but when I boot to Vista, I see the "E" drive as 7 and I can access the files on the Vista drive from 7 and vise versa.

Hope this helps.
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24 Oct 2009   #59
Howard Kaikow

Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mike B View Post
The most recent install will show up as the "C" drive. If you had Vista installed on the "C" drive and made a partition "D" for 7, after 7 is installed and booted, 7 would now be your "C" drive and the Vista partition would now show as the "D" drive.

If you booted to Vista, it would then show Vista as the "C" drive and 7 would then be the "D" drive.

It is all explained in the tutorial. It worked that way for me today when I installed 7 on a new drive. When booted to 7, I see the "E" drive as Vista, but when I boot to Vista, I see the "E" drive as 7 and I can access the files on the Vista drive from 7 and vise versa.

Hope this helps.
If that is the way it works, that's unacceptable.

C must always be the Vista drive.
Many/most folkes have other than OS files on C.
Forcing a change in drive letters needlessly breaks references to those files, e.g., in shortcuts.

Stated in How to Fix the Missing Vista Hard Disk Partitio Letter in Windows 7:

Quote:
If you install Windows 7 from within Vista to the other partition or drive instead, then Vista should show up in Windows 7 then. However, installing Windows 7 from within Vista instead of at boot may not always install properly if something in Vista interferes during installation,
If I am booted to Vista when I install Win 7 to, say, G, why would Vista not use G for Vista? Makes no sense to me.

Are not the boot files still located in C on the first hard drive?
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