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02 Mar 2012   #1070
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

I don't have IE9 nor 64bit (IE8 & 32 bit)
I just wanted to ask if you had used the one click .bat file to do the whole process at once? My Post referencing EKMantis Post

If you manually did all the steps I guess shouldn't make a difference, but the one click instant install of that .bat file I can't say enough about it. I wish they would post that on the first page besides showing the Manual way of doing it like they have now, but at the bottom of that it can say, Do it manually following the above procedures, or do it instantly running EKMantis one click bat file.
I've tested the .bat on 5 different fresh installs so far already, SP0 or SP1, and it works perfectly.

Anyway, back to your problem John sorry I can't help with that though, I use IE8 so I don't know the differences would make, not only that I never did have Windows Live Mail installed at the same time as WM - that complicates things for you. How does WLM show in your Programs list if you haven't installed it yet? Anyway at first it was determined not to have WLM installed at all when using WM, but that may have changed but I never followed that particular scenario through the threads since I had no intention on using WLM at the same time, why would one want to?


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02 Mar 2012   #1071
John Edwards

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 

Thanks for replying endeavour.

I had indeed tried the .bat method (and I do agree that it should appear upfront), but it produced unsatisfactory results (probably the same problems as I subsequently got!), so I started again manually.

In your experience, does the .bat method achieve a comprehensive transfer of Message Rules? I should have mentioned that the message transfer suffered from some issues, like not marking any as read or with flags, and corrupting certain long folder names.

Windows Live Mail came as part of Windows Live Essentials (an element of Win7) on my new PC - installed to the point of requiring my acceptance of its terms whenever selecting something that required use of one of its parts. I have studiously declined every such request, so I guess it's in limbo! The message I get on selecting Read Mail from the IE9 toolbar is 'default mail program is not properly installed' and if I choose 'send page or link by email', I get 'There is no email program associated to perform the requested action. Please install an email program or, if one is already installed, create an association in the Default Programs control panel.' Of course, I've tried to do that dozens of times, including using the SetWinMailDefault.zip linked at the start of the tutorial.

In the absence of any better ideas, I'm thinking of accepting WLM (and perhaps using it for Subscription/newsletter emails under a different email address - as a security improvement) - on the basis that having an alternative fully installed MIGHT permit WM to be selected as the default (I've seen reference to such a solution in this long thread!).
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02 Mar 2012   #1072
Geezanansa

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
 
 
SFC detecting corrupt files

Howdy All,

Just feel that considering time spent researching error codes from SFC produced cbs files, serious application errors, crashes, security risks, problems with windows update, problems with corrupt files.....never mind wading through this tutorial....


It might be worth advising anybody running winmail on win 7 to run sfc /scannow and if you do not get a no errors found message then there is a prob.

I had followed this tutorial on behalf of somebody who did not want or like winlivemail on their new machine. After a few months with no apparent probs the person was enjoying their new machine but was a little anxious on getting Service Pack 1 installed as it was failing to do so.

After running sfc /scannow corrupt files were found but could not be fixed. After looking at the created cbs file error codes 0x80004005 and 0x800f0805 are the problem.

So even though windows and winmail seemed to be working. SFC does not like winmail.exe registry hack.

The only method of correction is clean install and it cost £25 for an installation disc from the machines manufacturer...

WLM still aint an option and a quick google search will give at least 10 other options. I have used linux based distros and will now recommend thunderbird to the owner of the win 7 machine

I know not of a single person who does not use their machine for emails. Why do people pay a lot of hard earned for a OS that does not take advantage of hardware/capabilities out of box...??????No email client???????


Any way just had to do another clean installation got the updates and sp1 got the antivirus covered did sfc /scannow with no errors found so thunderbirds are go....
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03 Mar 2012   #1073
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by John Edwards View Post
Thanks for replying endeavor.

In your experience, does the .bat method achieve a comprehensive transfer of Message Rules?!).
Heck no, of course not! It doesn't do anything with that John.

The manual or .bat procedure makes it so that WM is activated/working in Win7, that's all, and so from there just like any other previous OE, WM, or Outlook, or any email client, you then have to go in and manually setup your account info, etc ...and if you have a previous message store and want to import all that, then of course you have to do that manually too. That can be tricky, but there are other threads for that procedure. Actually I have to do an import next week so I will keep you in mind.

To your other questions, I don't have enough experience with Windows Live Essentials sorry, but even though you didn't follow through with it doesn't mean it may not be installed in some way, but whether that matters or not I don't know.

I see you have already researched and tried a number of things to get your default mail program set as WM. I don't know the answer and I would have to search that out myself and work on it, but I don't have the unit in front of me to do that. I'm sure in the end it will be something simple though, you are so close.

Let us know if you find the answer, or maybe someone else can chime in to help you more. Best of luck John!
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03 Mar 2012   #1074
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Geezanansa View Post
Howdy All,
Just feel that considering time spent researching error codes from SFC produced ....
[....]
I'm sorry Geezanansa that you had problems, it's not your fault, but in a way yes it is. You see the SP1 and SFC issue was covered already if you were familiar with the project, or have read previous posts before, you would have remembered the simple step of what to do.

The answer to your SP1 and SFC issue was easy, it was fixed with a few simple registry lines added since SP1 to the reg file to fix it, and also replace the dll, and so all that you needed to do after the SP1 install, but Before running SFC! ..was a simple one-click to run the .bat file again (or to have redone the procedure manually) ..and all would have been fine having a working WM again.

Now obviously in the future when MS makes any changes, or even if SP2 breaks it again, then of course those issues will have to be worked out when the time comes! ..but it may very well be that we would simply run the bat file again, which puts the right dll and registry entries back in place.

A lot of people were involved with getting all the different registry entries together for the dozens of problems that arose over time since this project started, and every time a problem came up, someone would solve it... and so it's always a good time again to say a Big Thank You to Each and Every person, and there are many, that you see listed throughout all the threads that have helped keep this fun project alive. Someday it will end, but in the meantime it's still alive and well, and still working great!
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04 Mar 2012   #1075
John Edwards

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit.
 
 
Message Rules etc

Thanks endeavour - but WHY isn't it possible to 'import' my complex folder structure and many associated message rules? Surely that information is held in the old OS/PC, so could be transferred to the new one!
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04 Mar 2012   #1076
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
that have helped keep this fun project alive.
That pretty well sums it up. For me, it was a fun project and enjoyed interacting with others on it. I have moved on to WLM but not the latest version. The latest version is not bad though and I did have to use it on a work laptop whilst out of town all last year but as long as 2009 WLM version works, I'm sticking with it for now.
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05 Mar 2012   #1077
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by John Edwards View Post
Thanks endeavor - but WHY isn't it possible to 'import' my complex folder structure and many associated message rules? Surely that information is held in the old OS/PC, so could be transferred to the new one!
It is possible, if you prepared properly beforehand!

Also if your first tries didn't cause any unwanted registry additions that would hamper what you want to do.
(also I'm surprised your SetWinMailDefault.reg didn't work your button live)

But first as far as your Rules go..
I hope you still have access to your Vista WM source?
(If you did not you may be out of luck as far as Rules go)
and/or did you backup this key in your Vista source?
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
iow, go to this link and aprox the second paragraph, and read up on the process
just a snipit...
Quote:
<snips>
Windows Mail

To backup and restore Windows Mail messages, make a copy of all the files in the directory that contains the message and database files. The location of the message store can be found via Tools | Options | Advanced | Maintenance | Store Folder (the default is %USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\) and the location is also specified as the "Store Root" value under the Windows Mail registry key below.

In addition to backing up those files, export these 3 registry keys:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail
This is the Most Important Registry key and contains nearly all the Settings and Rules for Windows Mail................
<.......snip.......>
I hope you still have access to it John

You can read the rest of the story at that Webpage itself.

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If you don't have access to your Vista setup then.... well this is why one needs to have full unlimited control and full access on every level to backups. Most people don't and wing it.

I'm a firm believer in backup imaging programs for the OS partition, even the entire HD; this way in just a few minutes flat you could image your Vista back, take registry settings or Whatever else you need from it, then image back to current stage W7 or whatever building stage of W7 you've made, and proceed. (having duplicate computer setups are very handy for the tech too)
I still have complete access to my Vista, to WXP, even to my W98 OS's ...and can virtual mount them or as easily image them back to full life to the very day I left them. I'm not bragging about it, the point I'm just saying it would be nice if everyone needs to be Totally Backup Foolproof, and imaging programs are the way because you can never ever lose anything, even moreso for the eccentric (o: can additionally keep an up-to-date duplicate cloned HD once a week or month or whatever, and keep that in your sock drawer as well.
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05 Mar 2012   #1078
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
that have helped keep this fun project alive.
That pretty well sums it up. For me, it was a fun project and enjoyed interacting with others on it. I have moved on to WLM but not the latest version. The latest version is not bad though and I did have to use it on a work laptop whilst out of town all last year but as long as 2009 WLM version works, I'm sticking with it for now.
Is it v2009 build 14.0.8064.0206 ?

Ya Papa Bear moved on from being active in this project too... I'm glad Brink is still here, and thank you Brink for that, we can't emphasize that enough.

On my own box someday I may when I'm forced too, and will be ready, have the above version wlsetup-web.exe ready to go. I'd think I'll be using WM though till the end of 7 <grin>
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05 Mar 2012   #1079
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
that have helped keep this fun project alive.
That pretty well sums it up. For me, it was a fun project and enjoyed interacting with others on it. I have moved on to WLM but not the latest version. The latest version is not bad though and I did have to use it on a work laptop whilst out of town all last year but as long as 2009 WLM version works, I'm sticking with it for now.
Is it v2009 build 14.0.8064.0206 ?

Ya Papa Bear moved on from being active in this project too... I'm glad Brink is still here, and thank you Brink for that, we can't emphasize that enough.

On my own box someday I may when I'm forced too, and will be ready, have the above version wlsetup-web.exe ready to go. I'd think I'll be using WM though till the end of 7 <grin>
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