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PS, I edited my post because I had typed it backwards, but obviously I was meaning to type:
[...] there's 3 files in Vista that's not there in 7 [...]
PS, I edited my post because I had typed it backwards, but obviously I was meaning to type:
[...] there's 3 files in Vista that's not there in 7 [...]
Thanks, I knew what you meant and moved all three files to the Win7 machine. I had already moved the Blocked senders registry entry from the Vista machine and the Junk filter was working but I think the entries in the registry are the ones you add manually, not the ones in the MS .dat file. We'll now see if it appears to pick up junk listed in their database.
Thanks for your help as I had missed those three files. I don't know what the WindowsMailGaget.exe file does but it doesn't appear to hurt anything.
[QUOTE=2dawson;1837567]Not of what was observed on complete tracking the install of that latest definitions file I linked, it Did Not change anything relative in the registry! I just looked over the event again ..all changes were specifically with that .dat file while changing its version from v6.0.6002.18005 to v6.0.6002.18580. I cannot answer however how your junk filter was already working? ..you say it was putting certain worded emails? into the junk folder? ..however note that the Block Senders List entry was already in the WinMailEdit.reg you merged.
I never noticed conversations about this file before but a quick search on this forum showed others talking about the OESpamFilter.dat ..but besides the name being obvious I honestly don't know what the darn thing does, and a quick look at google has the usually bs but if I kept wading through the million converstaions I would find someone who knew what the hell it really does; I have to go back to what was observed on tracking the install though, and seeing is believing. I also extracted the dat and the its subsequent cab contents looking at it all in hex, gosh there were thousands of little files... gotta go do supper with the wife now, see ya dawson...
thanx
Endeavour
Many thanks for your suggestion; a Google search produced this Windows Mail missing from the default programs listing which offers a registry entry to download and merge - AND IT WORKS! Brilliant. I didn't think I was going to solve this - it didn't occur to me search under Vista - but of course that's where WM came from! I was worried that it wouldn't work on 64-bit W7 - but it seems fine - so far! THANKS A MILLION TIMES.
By the way, after merging the registry entry, I DO still need to keep WLM marked 'enable access', or else the functionality disappears again and the registry entry needs to be reapplied.
Hope this works for anyone else with this annoying problem.
Last edited by John Edwards; 14 Mar 2012 at 19:51. Reason: Further information
Just trying to help out a friend running Win 7 x64s. However, I am confused with the lack of clarity
On the first page it says 3. In Windows Mail folder, take full control of the file "msoe.dll" as follows.
Warning
If running 64bit Windows 7, before carrying out this step, read "Footnote 3" below.
A) [COLOR=#3485BD !important][COLOR=#3485BD !important]Download[/COLOR][/COLOR] and install Take Ownership to add it.
B) Open: Start Orb ==> Computer ==> C: Drive ==> Program Files ==> Windows Mail folder ==> Right click: "msoe.dll" file ==> In drop down [COLOR=#3485BD !important][COLOR=#3485BD !important]menu[/COLOR][/COLOR] click: Take Ownership.
*Note 1: If WinMail.exe file is not visible in Windows Mail folder, then apply "Footnote 4" below.
*Note 2: Before proceeding to Step 4, copy and save "msoe.dll" file as back-up for safety.
Am I to copy the downloaded x64 MSOE file and move it to the Windows Mail folder overwriting the existing MSOE file? If so, how do I do this because it won't let me overwrite the folder? Once I do this, do I then take ownership (see footnote 3).
Thats really great John glad you got that done.
..and so dissecting that reg file from where you got it, the interesting thing is that 99.9% of everything that's in it, is a duplicate of what's Already In Our Own WinMailEdit.reg ...except for one little tiney tiny line: "Hidden"=dword:00000000"
...and so:
...of course to transfer/import Contacts, Accounts, Emails, etc, from a previous installation that will have to all be done manually following tutorial steps 5 & 6, there's no way around that.Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Windows Mail\Capabilities] "Hidden"=dword:00000000
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This is all now incorporated into post #1 with many new fixes and updates; so going forward, see post #1
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Last edited by endeavor; 08 Aug 2017 at 11:08. Reason: link
You have to take ownership first in order to be able to place the file, and the #3 that you referenced is very clear about it with it's 3a & 3b before going to 4. I thought it was well written considering.
Nevertheless understand there is no one full time tech here like MS has to make sure all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed, and so be patient with the process and what it is: a many individuals volunteered project.
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This is all now incorporated into post #1 with many new fixes and updates; so going forward, see post #1
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Last edited by endeavor; 08 Aug 2017 at 11:09. Reason: link
Thanks endeavor, the sequence to me is not in proper chronological order. the take ownership part should be mentioned first. the warning to see footnoote 3 comes next and the warning implies before doing the ownership part, read footnoote 3. it's pretty easy for those who understand the process or have already been through it, but for someone reading the instructions and going step by step it can be confusing . nonethless, i'll try the bat file as u suggested.
Cheers,
Sam
Last edited by Sammy888; 16 Mar 2012 at 13:34.
BTW, I noticed a bug or lack of a feature in this Windows Mail.
The install with the .bat file was seemless! I would suggest the link to the file be included in the first post.
I have several rules set up. I have dozens of folders that I migrated from OE. I have the folder tree closed.
With OE, if any new mail that came in and that was sorted by a rule, the folder will automatically open up. Now, the folder is hidden and I have to open up the main menu of my messages and look down to see which folder has any new email. That's kind of a pain. I guess the only solution is to create a new folder in the local folder?
I agree, it's up to Brink our Forum Administrator though.
He has his hands full already with what he does... and it will take time for him to tend to and edit the Tutioral.
I don't 'think' that WM ever auto-opened to the subfolder that a rule-sent message went in to it, or any message? I can see where it would be handy if you have other rules acting as identities to put mail in it.I have several rules set up. I have dozens of folders that I migrated from OE. I have the folder tree closed.
With OE, if any new mail that came in and that was sorted by a rule, the folder will automatically open up. Now, the folder is hidden and I have to open up the main menu of my messages and look down to see which folder has any new email. That's kind of a pain. I guess the only solution is to create a new folder in the local folder?
The only thing WM, Will Do, is if you put your send-to rule entering the 'top level' of a new local folder, that folder will Bold itself when a new unread message arrives in it, the same happened on OE too, but note though neither OE nor WM will Bold the 'first level folder' if it's sent to a sub-folder of it, but going into that first level folder then yes you will see that subfolder will be in bold.
Now I've used OE since the begining and I've never seen it open folders when mail arrived in it? ..that's not to say yours does not, mine never did and looking through the Options on an xp OE box next to me right now, I don't see any options to do that? ...let us know where that option is please I'm curious. My Layout is unique though so maybe I dampened that from happening by my layout preferences. At least the folder the email goes into Bolds itself though. Perhaps you meant the Preview Pane which lets the email message text show upon arrival? I enjoy that feature myself; all previous OE version did that and of course so does WM.
Last edited by endeavor; 18 Mar 2012 at 10:16.