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25 May 2012   #1180
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

The SFC/SCANNOW issue from way back is now moot isn't it? If I were to run SFC it wouldn't affect my Windows Mail?

oops, forgot this . . . when I try to send a link from a web page 'To email recipient' , it opens my Eudora instead of WM & WM isn't listed in 'Program Defaults'.


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26 May 2012   #1181
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grits View Post
The SFC/SCANNOW issue from way back is now moot isn't it? If I were to run SFC it wouldn't affect my Windows Mail? .
Yes that's correct, and our own Greg S (nice work Greg) took care of that SFC with WM problem back in this Post. As well I have tested it to prove it out and after running SFC no changes were made to my WM operation; but the fix was specifically to stop the msoe.dll from being reverted and that does work and has been proven, and that fix is already included within the WinMailEdit.reg




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oops, forgot this . . . when I try to send a link from a web page 'To email recipient' , it opens my Eudora instead of WM & WM isn't listed in 'Program Defaults'.
I probably could give you a reg key to get that back, mine works just fine however I do not have any other email applications installed except for WM, but remember there are a Number of minor 'brokens' or glitches that do not work on WM anymore doing it on 7, one being if you click the work 'offline' button WM will crash, and a few other minor things all of which I don't even use anyway. Point is, some things on this WM on 7 are broken and obviously won't be fixed ever.
If you want to send someone a web link in an email just copy/paste it in, etc...
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26 May 2012   #1182
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

okeedokee, Thanks
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26 May 2012   #1183
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 
WinMail on Windows 8

Setting up WM on Windows 8 is also possible as others have found, I have now done it too - and yes it does work. I had noticed a post on one of our alternate forums, and I posted over there about what I've found if you wanted to check it out.

Since what's listed over there is not really accurately complete, I've asked Slartybart if he would care to adapt and duplicate another separate Tutorial and batch file for the extra steps needed all into one to get WM on Windows 8, and if so then maybe make a new Tutorial Post and post it over there, however if he chooses not to make one, you can still do the first extra process manually from over there pretty easy like I did, and for the second part then run the same current automated process to finish it, and both together works a treat.
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28 May 2012   #1184
Sammy888

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
I'm fairly certain that "not junk mail" is a per item function. You either need to add the sender to your contacts, safe sender's list, or, as you said, build a rule.

I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
On the main WM GUI (not an email GUI) you go to the top tab of Tools> Junk E-mail Options> and in here you have many settings you can make - and so check all the many different settings within all tabs in there to see if anything is your problem. I personally have mine checkmarked on the first first tab and first selection which is to Turn it Off, but your needs may vary.

One of a number of caveats using WM on 7 is that you are not 'automatically' able to update the junk filter definitions anyway and so they are old as it is, nevertheless the original ones will still follow the mindset of its time period if you have it turned on. I personally just leave it on Off.
Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.
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29 May 2012   #1185
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post

Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.


I recommend turning the Junk E-Mail settings Off.
I've never had an email go into anything but the inbox yet.
Go To:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> check circle "No Automatic Filtering;" also "uncheck both boxes in the Phishing tab too;" for the heck of it make sure "no boxes checked within the International tab within its two 'Blocked' lists tabs;" also "Blocked Senders tab being empty"... now see if those same emails are delivered into the inbox... ...they should, if not perhaps remove them for the other "Safe Senders" tab to see if that somehow even though backwards thinking, helps. Have I missed any settings to be sure its Off?

If you insist on using the Junk-Email with WM in 7, then experiment and try:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> ..and here checkmark Safe List Only, and put those particular people you're having trouble with in the Safe Senders tab and see what happens.

Has there been any other users that have had the Junk E-Mail being "Fully Functional" "with WM on 7" ?
(except for the updating of its filter definitions which we know of course that's history)
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29 May 2012   #1186
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

@Sammy888: I see that endeavor posted "turn off junk mail....." which should do the trick (stop sending mail to the junk folder). But it leaves you without that level of 'protection'.

I know that WLM is 'better' at junk mail in that it allows you to say "I trust this sender", but as I said before, I don't know if that carries forward to WinMail - even though the safe sender hooks are there.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
..... I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.
Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.
Are the senders in your address book?
If I recall correctly, people in your address book (contacts) are more trusted than those that are not. Even with a sendeer in my address book, I would still get eMail moved to the Junk folder if the Phishing filter saw something questionable - usually mail sent to a mailing list, or some other criteria defined in the filter. Having friends, family, and known senders (your bank, your newsletters, etc) in your address book helps limit the Junk filtering, it doesn't eliminate it.

The choice is yours, try adding the sender to your address book (Contacts) and see if that helps, or as endeavor suggests just turn off junk mail filtering. MS isn't offering updates to WinMail junk filtering any longer, so you're not going to get any improvement over what you have now in that regards.

Experiment with different settings until you're satisfied, you mentioned rules in a previous post, OR you move to another client.
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15 Jun 2012   #1187
Ex_Brit

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
 
 

Mark, how come I have to do a Google search on the Internet to find this? It doesn't appear to be linked in the forum search nor appear in the list of Tutorials 'W'. 'M' or 'H' for that matter.
Or I am going blind perhaps...LOL.
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18 Jun 2012   #1188
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

@Ex_Brit: Methinks you're going blind - lol

Seven Forums Search Windows Mail (1st result when I posted this)
Tutorial Index W (4th from the top when I posted this)

Of course something might have been fixed behind the scenes between your post and mine.
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18 Jun 2012   #1189
Ex_Brit

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)
 
 

..Going blind...?? Been going there for years...LOL I could have sworn it failed to appear with under W or M or even in the Tute Index when I looked...but then these tired eyes are not what they used to be.

Thanks ;-)

I was referencing it in order to get WM to work in Windows 8 actually as I positively refuse to use their Mail App preferring the desktop view for all things....and it does work with an extra file added plus the fix posted elsewhere in these forums for making WM the default client.

You can probably tell from that I'm a diehard fan of Windows 8....not.
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