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Windows 7: Windows Mail

16 Dec 2009   #110

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Windows Mail

I recently upgraded my wifes laptop to windows 7 premium 64 and discovered that windows mail was gone. I found your fix and need a little information on step "4. Go to the same folder in Vista and copy it" I'm not sure of where to find the vista files you are refering to. Are they still on the system I just upgraded, and if so where do I look. If not where do I download a copy of them. Note I still have vista 32 bit on my other laptop if that is a help. Your time and attention to this request is appreciated.

The files you are looking for are in the Windows.old folder. Then go to program files and take ownership of the Windows Mail folder. Copy and paste like said in the tutorial. Also, if you want to bring all the messages from Vista back, then follow this folder path: C:/Windows.old -> Users -> profilename -> AppData -> Local -> Microsoft -> Windows Mail -> Local Folders and choose whatever folder you want to import from. Then hit ctrl A to highlight all, and copy and paste to the same location, just without the windows.old. That should do it!

Thank You So Much, As I just received your update I will have to forward it to a few friends who want to keep windows mail. Last night I downloaded windows mail live and the first time I opened it, it found the windows mail folder and automatically imported the default
email account and message's. I was shocked to find out that windows live mail would run both my wife's email address at the same time & keep them separate. This is something I have wanted ever since MS did away with OE and multi-identities. Still, your Take Ownership script will be something I will hang on to & use in the future. VSS "Very Slick Stuff" Thanks Again

Please note I never restored windows mail from the upgrade to windows 7. Once I downloaded windows live mail and opened it the first time and it imported all the windows mail settings and messages I looked no further. After using windows mail live for a couple of days I have no desire to ever return to windows mail. FYI windows mail live will work all the way back to XP SP2, I loaded it with easy on my XP machine and it will run side by side with outlook express at the same time. go here for the down load: Mail - Windows Live Also download the photo gallery while your at it as windows 7 dosn't have that either. Good Luck

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16 Dec 2009   #111

Windows 7 Ulti. x64

I agree with gregory7 I tried WLM and liked it. Its been on all of my 7 installs since Beta.
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17 Dec 2009   #112
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
Take ownership

For some unknown reason when I "took ownership" of Windows Mail in Windows 7 Ulitmate, it still would not let me delete the program and replace it with Win Mail Vista, nor would it let me copy/paste Win Mail Vista files.

I had to manually take full control of each file/folder in Win Mail (Win7), and only then could it be copied/deleted and replaced with Win Mail (Vista). Taking full control manually is long and repetitive, requiring quite a number of steps which can vary for different files/folders.

The other problem was that .eml email files saved to the desktop or a storage folder could not be opened.

After a lot of research in different environments, I did a guide in Techspot Forum detailing step by step how to:

1. Import Win Mail Vista to Win7.

2. Enable .eml files to be opened on Win7 desktop.

This is a link to that guide here.

For those who have installed Win7 as a stand alone, and not upgrade from Vista, and wish to extract the Win Mail program folder from Vista, one solution, once Win7 is installed on your PC, is to use the Win7 partition manager to shrink the existing partition containing Win7, create a new partition in the free space and instal a bare-bones copy of Vista on the new partition. In my own case I have WinXP Pro, Vista Ult and Win7 Ult all installed on one hard drive.

The Win7 partition manager can be found by going to:

Start Menu ==> Right click: Computer ==> Manage ==> Disk Management ==> Right click: Windows 7 ( C: ) partition ==> Shrink volume ==> Right click: Unallocated space ==> Create new partiton.

Hope this might help anyone who had similar difficulties.

Since I work with multiple bulk emails on a daily basis, and have tried all available email programs such as Win Live Mail, Mozilla Thunderbird, etc.... in my humble opinion, Windows Mail is in a class of it's own.
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17 Dec 2009   #113
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail

Gregroy7 pardon my ignorance, but could you please explain exactly what you mean by:

I was shocked to find out that windows live mail would run both my wife's email address at the same time & keep them separate.
Thanks PB
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18 Dec 2009   #114

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)

WLM sets up mail boxes separately for each account. To some that is useful, to me a darned nuisance.
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18 Dec 2009   #115
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
Multiple mail boxes

Thanks Ex_Brit

WLM sets up mail boxes separately for each account. To some that is useful, to me a darned nuisance.
I'm the only one using my PC, but I have more than one account as I have several email addresses, and like you, it would be a pain in the butt to have separate boxes.

Cheers PB
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18 Dec 2009   #116
fat 240

No Luck

Hi l have followed all the steps posted here, but no luck when l click on the icon for windows mail it doesent load, any ideas?
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19 Dec 2009   #117
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail

To Fat 240 re:

Hi l have followed all the steps posted here, but no luck when l click on the icon for windows mail it doesent load, any ideas
As I said in an earlier reply I did a comprehensive guide in Techspot forum on importing windows mail from Vista to Win7 because I found glitchs in various methods suggested.

Anyway click here to be re-directed to that guide.

Hope this helps. PB
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20 Dec 2009   #118

Windows Seven (7) Ultimate x64

Hello everyone! I have problem. I don't know why Take ownership doesn't work! I tried method made by Poppa bear and it doesn't work to! I cha'd delete folder from Program Files. Do you know any alternative method ?
Ok, I have put files in proper folder. Now, when I start app,I have to set folder for inbox etc. and when I set I have window that my HDD is full and when click ok, have window "Windows Mail could not be started because MSOE.dll could not be initialised"

What should I do ?
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21 Dec 2009   #119
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
MSOE.dll could not be initialised"

To Meriu

MSOE.dll could not be initialised"
There could be a number of reasons why that's happening.

1. Under Folder Options/View have you allowed hidden and system files to be viewed? Until I did this I could not initially copy all the Win Mail from Vista into the folder, nor even view the WinMail.exe file which runs Win Mail.

In one environment I received an error message that it could not be started because the program was already running, but it was a hidden protected file. In addition to allowing viewing of hidden protected system files I had to re-boot my PC.

2. Have you taken "full control" of this file using the manual method as described in my post, and edited ALL the entries in the "group or user names" under the properties/security tab by ticking ALL the allow boxes, then apply/OK?

3. The other suggestion would be to delete the entire Windows Mail folder in program files in Win7, and recopy/paste the entire Win Mail folder from Vista in case this or any other files have been corrupted.

4. Are you running this program as administrator?

5. Have you checked you firewall for any conflicts? A simple test would be to temporarily disable your firewall, anti-virus and any real time programs running, and see if this fixes the problem. Then switch them on one-by-one to see which one is causing the conflict.

6. Have you run a full scan for viruses and spyware?

As mentioned in my post, "Take Ownership" did not always work in every environment, and only deleted some of the files; in which case you have to take full control manually.

Good luck. PB
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