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18 Jan 2013   #1280

Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 10 Pro (all x64)

Of course you'll have to follow the Windows Calendar Tutorial: Windows Calendar - Import into Windows 7

You say the links don't work, I don't think they were ever there in the first place. is still there and works OK though.

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19 Jan 2013   #1281

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post
Sorry endeavor, I gotta disagree big time with you on WLM. Suddenly, I came across this error which never occured with OE:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
@ Sammy
I always enjoyed OE in the very early days too. WM is basically the same thing with a few improvements and I like it even better. It's so blessed easy to install on 7 and only takes a few minutes, and with the new procedure it's pretty much fully automated.
As mentioned previously it's almost as quick and almost as easy to place it on 8 too for even the slightly experienced+ user, but here I agree and I prefer to use the 7 OS better at this point in time.

I've been away and didn't these posts Sammy, but to clarify yourself if you look again I clearly stated and was only talking about WM = Windows Mail !
...I was never talking about WLM = Windows Live Mail, which is a whole different animal of which the core of this entire thread and tutorial is not even about.
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02 Feb 2013   #1282

Mail and Calendar in 7 and 8

I followed this tute to a T and got Mail and Calendar both working in Windows 7. I know some have done the same with Windows 8, which I tried to do but could not get Mail to launch in 8. I hunted all around the net and found that 8 was lacking a dll file- msidcrl30.dll. The following is what I found that makes it work in 8.
"You can install and run Windows Mail for Windows Vista on Windows 8, just like you can on Windows 7. But to get Windows mail working in Windows 8, you must have the dll file Msidcrl30.dll in order for Windows Mail to work on Windows 8. Msidcrl30.dll is included in both Windows Vista and Windows 7 but it is not included in Windows 8. So first you have to install the dll file on Windows 8 in order to get Windows Mail working.
To do this you need to go to either your Windows Vista or Windows 7 computer. Then go to your Windows/system 32 folder on C drive. In the Windows/system 32 folder look for a dll file called Msidcrl30.dll. Then copy and paste the dll file into your My Documents or My Downloads folder. And then make a new folder. Copy and paste the dll file into the new folder you have just made. Then right click with your mouse and select ‘send to zip folder’. This creates a zip installer file.
Once you have done this you must copy the Msidcrl30.dll file onto your Windows 8 computer. And then unzip the file, open the folder, and paste the dll file in Windows/system32 on Windows 8." After I did this WIndows Mail launched right off the bat.
However I cannot get Calendar to work in 8. I followed the tute for Calendar, right to a T. Alll went well up to where I was to select the Reminders file. That part seemed to work okay, but when I tried to select the configuration OS at the bottom, I got an error message saying "the specified account name is not valid." I tried it for all of the options, but none worked. I have no idea what the error message is talking about, nor where to even find the name of the mystery accout so I can remedy it.
Any ideas, anyone? I'd love to get Calendar working with Mail, but am up a tree so far.
Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong place. One of you suggested here so here I am.
I appreciate this forum a bunch!
Ron K.
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02 Feb 2013   #1283

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit

Thanks for cluing us all in on the need to create a copy of the Windows 7 Msidcrl30.dll file in the corresponding place in Windows 8 (c:/Windows/System32). I had to do a similar trick with one of the battery related files in order to fix a "battery not detected" issue in Windows 8. In that case the file (cmbatt.sys) did exist in Windows 8 but had to be replaced with the Windows 7 version. In that case it was necessary to take ownership of the file and change its security permissions in order to delete the bad Windows 8 version and replace it with the good Windows 7 version. But we need to be aware that when changing files around in the Windows/System folder, the change may be undone whenever the system detects an "unsanctioned" change. In the case of the battery file, if I do a system file check via the command prompt (sfc /scannow), the Windows 8 file version will replace the Windows 7 version and the original problem will return. This was the main reason most of us don't use Windows Mail on 7 or 8; you never know when it will revert back to not working and then you have to go back an make the changes all over again.
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03 Feb 2013   #1284

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

R Kelly: Yes, thank you for posting the info re: the dll file msidcrl30 (sure this is Win7 and you're post is Win8 related, but no one seems to want to take ownership of the tutorial on Win8 - for good reason - it's basically an orphaned product)

Regarding the invalid account issue, I'll take a guess that there are registry changes required to make the connection between calendar and WM. My Vista machine bit the dust a few months ago, so I don't have a reference to use for investigation (even I won't take ownership of WM on Win8).

I searched for non-MS alternatives. Seems as thogh Mozilla Thunderbird w/ Lightning add-on for Cal takes top honors. The only other decent option was Outlook and that is said with caveats - not useful on Win8 RT.

If you're looking for just calendering, Rainlendar, is well regarded, although I'm not familiar with it. I you couple that with Live Essentials mail - you might have a workable messaging platform.

Note that I'm not using Win8. I haven't used calendering since Outlook 98 and use Live Essentials Mail client.

If you find the "missing link" that ties WM and Cal on Win8, please do post what you find.
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03 Feb 2013   #1285


Yes, it is a "risk" to use Windows Mail like we do, but it sure is fun, too. YEA for us! That's a good thing to know about the battery file. If I ever do run across the link between WM and CAL in 8 I'll be glad to post it.
Thanks all,
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03 Feb 2013   #1286

Windows 7 Ultimate
New Windows Mail download

I want to thank you for the new way to get Windows Mail back.
It is so easy compared to the other way. I tried about 10 times
to get it the other way before I finally got it. Then after about a
week, Windows updates sent a file that made me lose it. Very
frustrating. I have now turned off Windows updates to stop the
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03 Feb 2013   #1287

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

You're welcome.

I do not recommend turning off Windows Update, though. The the current tut should prevent the issue through a registry key mod.

Besides, I don't think MS is doing any maint on WM - they might have sent some files through WU back then, but I'm fairly sure that the people who built the original caught that. I'd be interested to know if there is something else that you experienced using the modified tutorial.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alientrader1 View Post
I want to thank you for the new way to get Windows Mail back.
It is so easy compared to the other way. I tried about 10 times to get it the other way before I finally got it. Then after about a week, Windows updates sent a file that made me lose it. Very frustrating.

I have now turned off Windows updates to stop the problem.
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03 Feb 2013   #1288

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
...The the current tut should prevent the issue through a registry key mod...Besides, I don't think MS is doing any maint on WM.
The recent comments were prompted by these posts:
1) Windows Mail
2) Windows Mail

1) Has the missing dll issue for Windows 8 been corrected or mentioned in the tutorial?
2) Does WM in Windows 7 or 8 still work after doing a system file check (sfc /scannow)? (I'm not sure how a registry key mod can affect the sfc test.)
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04 Feb 2013   #1289

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

1) Have you run the tutorial Ron?
2) Did SFC break WM on Win7?

I spent a good deal of time writing and testing the tut. Endeavor tested it. About 5 other people have tested it and no one has reported issues. On the contrary, the two most recent posts stated the tut worked!

With regards to Win8 - it doesn't apply to this tutorial. RKelly needed somplece to write about his Win8 / WM experience and that's great, it will help others.

If you have issues that need to be addressed specific to Win7 and this tutorial, I've always said I will update the tut. It is not within the scope of this tut or this forum to answer all questions about all platforms (i.e. Win8) or about all related aplets (i.e. Calendar).

If you tried the tut or took the time to look at the files in the download, the questions you ask would be moot.
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