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20 Apr 2013   #1320
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Hi LeelaG, and thanks!

No Leela I'm sorry, but the spam filter and junk mail folder workings will never be resolved.

There are a few other things that will never be resolved either, and most likely as time goes on that list 'may' grow, and so enjoy what we have while you can

The fact that WM works at all on Windows 7, and Windows 8, is a blessing, and so appreciate it!

Long Live Windows Mail, aka, Outlook Express!


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20 Apr 2013   #1321
LeelaG

Win7 64 bit, Win Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win XP Pro
 
 

Thanks for quick reply - at least now I know I can quit trying.... it was starting to make me crazy
Yes, I am THRILLED to have the rest of WinMail alive & well on Win7!!
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21 Apr 2013   #1322
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Leela, just an fyi, the only limited way to use it is to try what Ex-Brit spoke about a few years ago.
His post is Here
But besides that, I've always recommended to just turn it off.
I've never used the junk e-mail feature in any way whatsoever though.
Many have tried different ways over the years, but have never fully succeeded.
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21 Apr 2013   #1323
LeelaG

Win7 64 bit, Win Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win XP Pro
 
 

Lots of interesting info at that link 'Endeavor' - Thank You!

For now, from within Win Mail, I've gone to Tools --> Junk Email Options, and set it at Safe List Only, then on the Safe Senders Tab, I checked both *Trust Email from my Contacts & *Add people I Email to my Safe List.

This seems to work pretty well, then as any emails come in that go into Junk that shouldn't, I right click --> Junk Email Options --> Add Sender to Safe Senders List. Initially a lot of good emails went to Junk, but it improves over time.
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23 Apr 2013   #1324
janmor

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

The computer technician replaced a screen and motherboard on my six month old computer. He could not get windows 7 running so ordered me a new c hard drive incase data was lost, he then replaced the C drive and reinstalled windows. I swaped over the C drives because someone said all the old data would still be there. It appears to contain the same data as the new C drive.
There is back up data on the second E hard drive. I have reinstalled windows mail but I am desperate to retrieve all my old emails could any suggest if they might be accessable from the E drive or the old C drive somewhere or indeed anywhere in my computer? Thank You
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23 Apr 2013   #1325
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by janmor View Post
The computer technician replaced a screen and motherboard on my six month old computer. He could not get windows 7 running so ordered me a new c hard drive incase data was lost, he then replaced the C drive and reinstalled windows. I swaped over the C drives because someone said all the old data would still be there. It appears to contain the same data as the new C drive.
There is back up data on the second E hard drive. I have reinstalled windows mail but I am desperate to retrieve all my old emails could any suggest if they might be accessable from the E drive or the old C drive somewhere or indeed anywhere in my computer? Thank You
If you have access to your old C:\ (I think you said E:\) partition then yes you can, but there's variables and I'm not sure how industrious you are and the variables you face. If I was there with my hands on your keyboard and previous working partition I could lift them out in a few minutes.

First though I suggest you copy your previous WM store folder to a US stick or something similar, and even make a copy of that, this way no matter what you do you'll be sure to have the original mail store to draw from.

The particular folder on that old drive that contains all your mail is... and so copy the whole folder of:
(just substitute "C:\" to what letter of partition it's on depending on how you're looking at it)

C:\Users\Win7\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail

On my computers because they are all working clones of each other I dictate that all my different
"account{xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx}.oeaccount"
#'s within that folder are the same so that I can just copy that entire Windows Mail folder above from one computer to the next and all my folder structures and mail are available identical to each other instantly, But, because yours is a re-install then surly all those accounts #'s will be different and so you cannot do it the same way... sorry, there are still ways but it's appropriate for me to keep you and your data store safe if your not a maverick, and so..
I guess here that's where for you, go to the top tab of
File> Import> Messages...
...and toggle in pointing it to your previous store folder on your USB stick, or your original location. This may be the safest way for you to do. You could pick up you other listings this way too.

Everything you do be sure you have a backup plan though, if you use a backup imaging program is Excellent; if you don't then use the built in Restore Point. All backup plans are your best friend.
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24 Apr 2013   #1326
janmor

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

As you can gather i'm easily confused. I searched the E drive and new C drive but cannot find the folder. I don't understand why the old C drive hard disk is the same as the new one I assume due to the reinstall of windows.

I have a windows image backup from the 7/4/2013 can I use this to reinstall all the programs and files. I have saved all the files from that backup to an external hardrive but I cannot find any emails.

And would I have to delete the new windows 7 install on the current C drive partition before I did this, I now have a windows CD (the technician provided) I didn't have before if that would help me.

Sorry if i'm in the wrong thread or asking dumb questions or your answer should be obvious to me.

Thanks
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24 Apr 2013   #1327
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by janmor View Post
As you can gather i'm easily confused. I searched the E drive and new C drive but cannot find the folder. I don't understand why the old C drive hard disk is the same as the new one I assume due to the reinstall of windows.

I have a windows image backup from the 7/4/2013 can I use this to reinstall all the programs and files. I have saved all the files from that backup to an external hardrive but I cannot find any emails.

And would I have to delete the new windows 7 install on the current C drive partition before I did this, I now have a windows CD (the technician provided) I didn't have before if that would help me.

Sorry if i'm in the wrong thread or asking dumb questions or your answer should be obvious to me.

Thanks
Dear Janmor,
If I had my hands on your keyboard then it would be a matter of a few minutes to figure it out, but by your questions back to me, tells me that I'm not sure you should be doing any of this by yourself, and I don't want to be responsible if you wreck havoc with your OS again by mistake.
My reply I thought was plain and I apologize if you don't understand my meanings to help you.

My new response and advice to your questions are, no, and so do not proceed.
I want to help and for you to succeed, but perhaps someone else can help you with more time and patience.
These procedures are easy enough, but are for average+ to more advanced users only.
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24 Apr 2013   #1328
janmor

windows 7 64 bit
 
 

I found the email folder eventually via the backup and restore search for folders and saved it to external drive. I went into the boot menu and tried to change settings to start from cd last night (so I could have all my software and programs reinstalled) that was a disaster. Computer crashed big time.

Anyway tried again today eventually F12 let me start via the windows cd in repair mode, then went to the image back-up of 7/4/2013 and amazingly all the software ect back in the computer. More good luck than good management obviously.

In my defence I am blond, but thank you kindly for all your help and I will check the system image settings for the future.

Thanks again.
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25 Apr 2013   #1329
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by janmor View Post
I found the email folder eventually via the backup and restore search for folders and saved it to external drive. I went into the boot menu and tried to change settings to start from cd last night (so I could have all my software and programs reinstalled) that was a disaster. Computer crashed big time.

Anyway tried again today eventually F12 let me start via the windows cd in repair mode, then went to the image back-up of 7/4/2013 and amazingly all the software ect back in the computer. More good luck than good management obviously.

In my defence I am blond, but thank you kindly for all your help and I will check the system image settings for the future.

Thanks again.
Dear Janmor,
I did say No to what you were asking in your previous post - but I see you did it anyway!
My concern was, that since your Dell technician reinstalled the OS and so the decision was to start brand new fresh, but then you wanted to erase what he did and go back to what you had before which really he should of did in the first place instead of reinstalling the OS...but then again there is something to be said for reinstalling and starting from scratch 'if' your current and/or recent backup software/system environment was too corrupted over too many instances to recover from - all of which were unknowns..to me anyway.

Anyway in the end, I have to give you props for being fearless even though I'm not sure how much you understood what you were doing, or risking. I personally did not want you to break your system again of which you did anyway! I would of not forgave myself ...but somehow miraculously your recovered from it yourself. In some ways it seems you understand more than you give yourself credit for.

Well honestly I am very glad you have your system back to the way you want and I assume you have all your emails?

If you were to have kept your new OS installation that your Dell tech did, then to get your emails back you would of simply used your import function as I outlined previously pointing its function too that backup folder that I gave you, and it would of imported your emails automatically. Having said that though, if you have a known good partition image backup from a previous date, then by all means that trumps everything.

All the best, sincerely...!
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