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Windows 7: Windows Mail

17 May 2014   #1500
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
Hi endeavor and all,

everything seems to be working fine now. I don't believe that I am spamming everyone with duplicates anymore. The only problem I have now is that my inbox and sent folders are full of thousands of duplicates as a result of probably dragging too may files I guess from the old computer in an effort not to miss anything. I have been trying to find a free program that can remove duplicates from Windows mail but so far no luck.
Have a great weekend,
There will be no program to do what you want unfortunately since iirc when you copy/drag/drop the emails from the other computers WM message store folders to the target computer, iirc, I seem to remember that when WM opens identifies and renames all 'non-target' computer emails with different random numbers, and if you already had identical email bodies then you'll end up with a mess to sort, iow, so you can't use a program to search for duplicate filenames since they all have different names...it would be nice if you could. I don't have your situation in front of me or I could see and determine which way to proceed depending. You may do it via a program, finding duplicates specifically by searching Modified dates (not creation dates) since Modified dates 'may' mostlikely have remained the same, but you must be careful of what you delete.
I would suggest to do it visually/manually and so if you go into each suspected message store folder located at:
C:\Users\Win7\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders
..of inbox, outbox, etc.. and sort each folder columns by the date "Modified" (not creation dates) and you will see all the duplicates in that way of column date duplicates, and all the ones with exact matches you could delete. But be careful what you delete being only email files, of which if you only stay in the right folders that should not be a problem... iow, you don't want to delete account files, etc.

If all that sounds too complicated surly, then you possibly could do it within WinMail itself with it open as you laboriously identity each duplicate email visually and delete them within WinMail itself.

If I had your computer in front of me I could see/determine what/which way you did what you did and what it ended up with, and then figure out a best plan to proceed to get rid of the duplicates.

Anyway you should stop dragging and dropping in that particular way to solve the problem going forward.
When you copy a WM message store from one machine to another new machine you're setting up, you always do it with the target machine being empty of emails. From there, if you want to make an always current backup of that new message store folder for safe keeping if needed. Not ever combining it with some of the old same store, that way you stay clear of making duplicates when you need to start fresh again.


Nice to see your kewl1, and take good care.


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18 May 2014   #1501
RKelly5327

 
 

Speaking of dll files (msoe)- I've been wondering if one of my dll files is bad, missing in action, or what. Ever since I fixed this laptop up to run W. M. it has not emptied the Deleted Items folder upon exit, nor will it maintain the setting to do so via the Maintainance option under the Advanced tab. I tick the box for it, click Apply, click OK, and when I go back it's gone. I set up W. M. for a friend of mine the other day on a Win 7 machine and noticed on that machine that when the Advanced tab is open, there were several options listed in the big Settings box. Also, on hers, when W.M. is closed, it does empty the Deleted Items folder. On this one the Settings box is just one big empty box. There are no options listed at all in the Settings box. That got me thinking that maybe one of my dll files is bad. It has never emptied the Deleted items folder, no matter what you do, unless you do it manually and tell it do. I copied the dll files that I had used on hers and thought maybe I'd go through the W.M. folder and replace the dll files one at a time to see if I could get the options in the Settings box to show up, AND to get it to automatically empty the Deleted Items folder upon exit.
One thing I wondered- why is there a folder for W.M. in both Program Files and Program Files (x86)?? If I do replace the dll files, I'm planning on replacing them in both folders, the same corresponding ones, and see what happens.
Any ideas?
Have a good and blessed Sunday!
RK
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18 May 2014   #1502
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

There are two folders because one is used for 32 bit installed OS's and one for 64 bit installs, and so used accordingly.

I seem to remember an instance of the other situation you're having with a blank options screen, I'm trying to recall but am drawing a blank at the moment of what the resolve was, whether it was registry or file, and/or if it is connected at all to your auto-delete issue, but I'm sure either one is fixable. I'll have to go back and revisit what you listed you had done with your setup since iirc you had a lot of things going on with it, and what you did.
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21 May 2014   #1503
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RKelly5327 View Post
Hi Ron,

After glancing all of your previous posts to see what you have done to your WinMail so far over the last year or so... (by the way, nice job on being 78 years old)
Okay on your above post you say you put a checkmark in Advanced Option on the 'Empty Messages From The Deleted Items Folder On Exit" but then in the same post you say that your Options big setting box is all blank, and so has me wondering how you have any settings showing if it's all blank? ..so for clarification make a general screenshot and show what tabs and settings that you do have okay.
Actually there is no wording saying "Settings" box or Tab anywhere so I just need to dot the i's so to say.

Also on your, this Post from last year you say you ran SFC and that stopped WinMail from working, which tells me that as of that point you have never run the most recent Tutorial from page one yet, or that would not have happened...also considering if you ran a restore point back to that point, etc, and so before we go any further if you would please run the page one Tutorial operation again and post back. (running the 'latest' Tutorial process will not hurt or change any of your settings even it you ran it a dozen times, it can only help, but I just want to make sure you have the most current WinMailEdit.reg merged, and msoe.dll that it contains.)
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21 May 2014   #1504
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor,

I am the one that was having a bit of of problem with WM hanging up when checking for mail after coming out of sleep mode.

I ran the tutorial and hopefully the the 64 bit batch file.

Below is a paste of running the batch file up until the last "press any key..."

I have no problems, but I wonder if the batch file worked properly.

I looked in Program files/WM, and the renamed msoe.dll (-msoe.dll) was not there.

Thanks for all the hard work that you do for all of us...


Don
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>cd %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\TutReWinMail\

C:\Users\Don\Downloads\TutReWinMail>

Endeavor, does the above look like I have the elevated cmd prompt?




********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************

=============================================================
This is the batch file to Reinstate WinMail for Windows 7

1. Merges WinMailEdit.reg into your system registry
2. Changes WinMail.exe attributes to make it visible
3. Takes ownership of msoe.dll
4. Replace retail msoe.dll with reinstated msoe.dll
a) rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll
b) copy tutorial msoe64.dll
c) rename tutorial msoe64.dll to msoe.dll

=============================================================
-------- About to merge WinMailEdit.reg

Press any key to continue . . .

----------------- merge WinMailEdit.reg is done ===========


=============================================================
-------- About to change WinMail.exe attributes

Press any key to continue . . .

Access denied - C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe

A SH C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe


----------------- change WinMail.exe attributes is done ===


=============================================================
-------- About to take ownership of retail msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied.

WARNING :Unable to set SeSecurityPrivilege privilege. This privilege may be requ
ired.
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A required priv
ilege is not held by the client.



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 0, Failed 1, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll
Last Failed: C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied.

WARNING :Unable to set SeSecurityPrivilege privilege. This privilege may be requ
ired.
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A required priv
ilege is not held by the client.



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 0, Failed 1, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll
Last Failed: C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.



----------------- take ownership of retail msoe.dll is done


=============================================================
-------- About to rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

Access is denied.

msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- rename retail -msoe.dll is done ======


=============================================================
-------- About to copy / rename tut msoe64.dll

Press any key to continue . . .
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21 May 2014   #1505
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Donz View Post

Endeavor, does the above look like I have the elevated cmd prompt?
After you unzip the "Win74umsZip.zip" into your Downloads folder, click the "ReWinMail_tutorial.html" to open and when you are reading #3 it also shows you a picture of and how to get to your Administrator command prompt.

It will say "Administrator Command Prompt" on the very top of the command prompt gui box (not within it)

When it says Administrator Command Prompt on the top, then continue to #4 and #5

If you are on a 64 bit OS then you need to run those commands, but for instance on a new setup running the Tutorial on a ''32 bit'' OS the Command Prompt GUI box will look like this; again notice at the very very top, it's says Administrator Command Prompt.
(Click Picture To Open Full)


Attached Thumbnails
Windows Mail-process.jpg  
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21 May 2014   #1506
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor,

Yes, I was in fact the Elevated Prompt. It was the ....Users/Don.. that prompted that question.
I just ran it again and got the same error messages as in my post above.

required privilege is not held by the client.

CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied. Etc, Etc

This leads me to believe that the batch file didn't work. ????
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21 May 2014   #1507
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

No it did not work, but it's not a WinMail problem but a Permissions problem, and as you can see when you search that out on the internet for instance, you get all these hits.

Have you done or changed anything recently to affect that?

Before you do anything be sure to make a partition backup for safety.
It would be nice if you had a backup partition image from a recent time when it was working normal to go back to as an easy fix, unless you don't mind going through the research to narrow it down as to what you did or was done that affected this.
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21 May 2014   #1508
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

You might want to manually check the security settings on the WM folder and related objects

C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\

WinMail.exe
msoe.dll

Post the privileges and the owner screens - thanks

Also open an elevated Cmd Prompt and type or copy the command below

whoami /all > %TEMP%\whoami.txt

please attach the whoami.txt file to your next post with the security screenshots.

This appears to be an issue with the built in administrator privileges. I'll need to verify that and provide a means to correct it.

Do you have any special group policies in effect?

Thanks.
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22 May 2014   #1509
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor and Slartybart,

Please accept my apology. I did not follow the tutorial to the letter.
What I did on my first attempt was incorrectly execute the batch file.
I failed to read this carefully: Execute ONE and only ONE of the following commands into the Administrator: Command Prompt window.
What I did was double click the batch file inside the TutReWinMail folder.
Looking back, I can't believe I did such a thing.

I did it again and this is what I got:


********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************

=============================================================
This is the batch file to Reinstate WinMail for Windows 7

1. Merges WinMailEdit.reg into your system registry
2. Changes WinMail.exe attributes to make it visible
3. Takes ownership of msoe.dll
4. Replace retail msoe.dll with reinstated msoe.dll
a) rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll
b) copy tutorial msoe64.dll
c) rename tutorial msoe64.dll to msoe.dll

=============================================================
-------- About to merge WinMailEdit.reg

Press any key to continue . . .

----------------- merge WinMailEdit.reg is done ===========


=============================================================
-------- About to change WinMail.exe attributes

Press any key to continue . . .


A C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe


----------------- change WinMail.exe attributes is done ===


=============================================================
-------- About to take ownership of retail msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 1, Failed 0, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll


Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 1, Failed 0, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll


----------------- take ownership of retail msoe.dll is done


=============================================================
-------- About to rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .


-msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- rename retail -msoe.dll is done ======


=============================================================
-------- About to copy / rename tut msoe64.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

C:msoe64.dll
1 File(s) copied

----------------------------------------- directory after copy
-msoe.dll
msoe64.dll
MSOERES.dll

----------------------------------------- directory after ren
-msoe.dll
msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- copy / rename tut msoe64.dll is done ====


=============================================================


********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************


Windows Mail is reinstated for use on Windows 7
************
----------------- Reboot now - Reboot now - Reboot now *
************

=============================================================



C:\Users\Don\Downloads\TutReWinMail>
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