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Windows 7: Windows Mail

18 May 2014   #1500
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

There are two folders because one is used for 32 bit installed OS's and one for 64 bit installs, and so used accordingly.

I seem to remember an instance of the other situation you're having with a blank options screen, I'm trying to recall but am drawing a blank at the moment of what the resolve was, whether it was registry or file, and/or if it is connected at all to your auto-delete issue, but I'm sure either one is fixable. I'll have to go back and revisit what you listed you had done with your setup since iirc you had a lot of things going on with it, and what you did.


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21 May 2014   #1501
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RKelly5327 View Post
Hi Ron,

After glancing all of your previous posts to see what you have done to your WinMail so far over the last year or so... (by the way, nice job on being 78 years old)
Okay on your above post you say you put a checkmark in Advanced Option on the 'Empty Messages From The Deleted Items Folder On Exit" but then in the same post you say that your Options big setting box is all blank, and so has me wondering how you have any settings showing if it's all blank? ..so for clarification make a general screenshot and show what tabs and settings that you do have okay.
Actually there is no wording saying "Settings" box or Tab anywhere so I just need to dot the i's so to say.

Also on your, this Post from last year you say you ran SFC and that stopped WinMail from working, which tells me that as of that point you have never run the most recent Tutorial from page one yet, or that would not have happened...also considering if you ran a restore point back to that point, etc, and so before we go any further if you would please run the page one Tutorial operation again and post back. (running the 'latest' Tutorial process will not hurt or change any of your settings even it you ran it a dozen times, it can only help, but I just want to make sure you have the most current WinMailEdit.reg merged, and msoe.dll that it contains.)
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21 May 2014   #1502
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor,

I am the one that was having a bit of of problem with WM hanging up when checking for mail after coming out of sleep mode.

I ran the tutorial and hopefully the the 64 bit batch file.

Below is a paste of running the batch file up until the last "press any key..."

I have no problems, but I wonder if the batch file worked properly.

I looked in Program files/WM, and the renamed msoe.dll (-msoe.dll) was not there.

Thanks for all the hard work that you do for all of us...


Don
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>cd %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\TutReWinMail\

C:\Users\Don\Downloads\TutReWinMail>

Endeavor, does the above look like I have the elevated cmd prompt?




********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************

=============================================================
This is the batch file to Reinstate WinMail for Windows 7

1. Merges WinMailEdit.reg into your system registry
2. Changes WinMail.exe attributes to make it visible
3. Takes ownership of msoe.dll
4. Replace retail msoe.dll with reinstated msoe.dll
a) rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll
b) copy tutorial msoe64.dll
c) rename tutorial msoe64.dll to msoe.dll

=============================================================
-------- About to merge WinMailEdit.reg

Press any key to continue . . .

----------------- merge WinMailEdit.reg is done ===========


=============================================================
-------- About to change WinMail.exe attributes

Press any key to continue . . .

Access denied - C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe

A SH C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe


----------------- change WinMail.exe attributes is done ===


=============================================================
-------- About to take ownership of retail msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied.

WARNING :Unable to set SeSecurityPrivilege privilege. This privilege may be requ
ired.
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A required priv
ilege is not held by the client.



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 0, Failed 1, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll
Last Failed: C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied.

WARNING :Unable to set SeSecurityPrivilege privilege. This privilege may be requ
ired.
C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A required priv
ilege is not held by the client.



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 0, Failed 1, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll
Last Failed: C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll - CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.



----------------- take ownership of retail msoe.dll is done


=============================================================
-------- About to rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

Access is denied.

msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- rename retail -msoe.dll is done ======


=============================================================
-------- About to copy / rename tut msoe64.dll

Press any key to continue . . .
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21 May 2014   #1503
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Donz View Post

Endeavor, does the above look like I have the elevated cmd prompt?
After you unzip the "Win74umsZip.zip" into your Downloads folder, click the "ReWinMail_tutorial.html" to open and when you are reading #3 it also shows you a picture of and how to get to your Administrator command prompt.

It will say "Administrator Command Prompt" on the very top of the command prompt gui box (not within it)

When it says Administrator Command Prompt on the top, then continue to #4 and #5

If you are on a 64 bit OS then you need to run those commands, but for instance on a new setup running the Tutorial on a ''32 bit'' OS the Command Prompt GUI box will look like this; again notice at the very very top, it's says Administrator Command Prompt.
(Click Picture To Open Full)


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Windows Mail-process.jpg  
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21 May 2014   #1504
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor,

Yes, I was in fact the Elevated Prompt. It was the ....Users/Don.. that prompted that question.
I just ran it again and got the same error messages as in my post above.

required privilege is not held by the client.

CreateFile Error : 1314 A
required privilege is not held by the client.

SeSecurityPrivilege : Access is denied. Etc, Etc

This leads me to believe that the batch file didn't work. ????
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21 May 2014   #1505
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

No it did not work, but it's not a WinMail problem but a Permissions problem, and as you can see when you search that out on the internet for instance, you get all these hits.

Have you done or changed anything recently to affect that?

Before you do anything be sure to make a partition backup for safety.
It would be nice if you had a backup partition image from a recent time when it was working normal to go back to as an easy fix, unless you don't mind going through the research to narrow it down as to what you did or was done that affected this.
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21 May 2014   #1506
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

You might want to manually check the security settings on the WM folder and related objects

C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\

WinMail.exe
msoe.dll

Post the privileges and the owner screens - thanks

Also open an elevated Cmd Prompt and type or copy the command below

whoami /all > %TEMP%\whoami.txt

please attach the whoami.txt file to your next post with the security screenshots.

This appears to be an issue with the built in administrator privileges. I'll need to verify that and provide a means to correct it.

Do you have any special group policies in effect?

Thanks.
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22 May 2014   #1507
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Endeavor and Slartybart,

Please accept my apology. I did not follow the tutorial to the letter.
What I did on my first attempt was incorrectly execute the batch file.
I failed to read this carefully: Execute ONE and only ONE of the following commands into the Administrator: Command Prompt window.
What I did was double click the batch file inside the TutReWinMail folder.
Looking back, I can't believe I did such a thing.

I did it again and this is what I got:


********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************

=============================================================
This is the batch file to Reinstate WinMail for Windows 7

1. Merges WinMailEdit.reg into your system registry
2. Changes WinMail.exe attributes to make it visible
3. Takes ownership of msoe.dll
4. Replace retail msoe.dll with reinstated msoe.dll
a) rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll
b) copy tutorial msoe64.dll
c) rename tutorial msoe64.dll to msoe.dll

=============================================================
-------- About to merge WinMailEdit.reg

Press any key to continue . . .

----------------- merge WinMailEdit.reg is done ===========


=============================================================
-------- About to change WinMail.exe attributes

Press any key to continue . . .


A C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe


----------------- change WinMail.exe attributes is done ===


=============================================================
-------- About to take ownership of retail msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .



Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 1, Failed 0, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll


Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done: 1, Modified 1, Failed 0, Syntax errors 0
Last Done : C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\msoe.dll


----------------- take ownership of retail msoe.dll is done


=============================================================
-------- About to rename retail msoe.dll to -msoe.dll

Press any key to continue . . .


-msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- rename retail -msoe.dll is done ======


=============================================================
-------- About to copy / rename tut msoe64.dll

Press any key to continue . . .

C:msoe64.dll
1 File(s) copied

----------------------------------------- directory after copy
-msoe.dll
msoe64.dll
MSOERES.dll

----------------------------------------- directory after ren
-msoe.dll
msoe.dll
MSOERES.dll


----------------- copy / rename tut msoe64.dll is done ====


=============================================================


********************************
* *
* 64 bit Operating Systems *
* *
********************************


Windows Mail is reinstated for use on Windows 7
************
----------------- Reboot now - Reboot now - Reboot now *
************

=============================================================



C:\Users\Don\Downloads\TutReWinMail>
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22 May 2014   #1508
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

That looks better.
Now back to your original problem saying that WinMail was hanging up when checking for mail after coming out of sleep mode. I feel better that you have the proper registry entries and dll in place - but most likely has nothing to do with your sleep problem. I personally never use the sleep function. Anyway if it still persists I would have to see if I could reproduce it. I believe you said everything else has been working fine with WinMail, and so it's not a serious problem, and as I said before why leave WinMail open when you walk away from your computer in the first place, just close WinMail before you leave your computer long enough for it go to Sleep. I rarely leave WinMail on just to poll for incoming messages anyway; when I want to check for email I start it up, and shut it down when done... but that's just me.
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22 May 2014   #1509
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Donz View Post
Endeavor and Slartybart,

Please accept my apology. I did not follow the tutorial to the letter.
.....
Looking back, I can't believe I did such a thing.
No need to apologize, you caught and corrected the error. Good thing too, because I was chasing the problem from a different angle.

Your reporting the issue does raise an issue for the batch file. It should probably check and report the return codes from operations - minor but it would be better. The error msg you recv'd is also a bit disconcerting as it indicates an security audit error - I need to research that a bit more.

endeavor is a WinMail evangelist and has been instrumental throughout the process of testing and supporting the tut. I'll leave you in his capable hands to work out the original issue.

Thanks

Bill
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